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Lapwing #20 aka Hirilondë

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Action shots would be great Joe.  And so would just sailing along or with you.   Where do you launch?  Marina Park seems like a good spot, but that is the far end of the pond from you.

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I have never launched at Marina Park, but it looks like a good ramp. It is only a mile or so by water from me, but it is in the upper part of the pond you have to deal with a half mile or so of shifty winds and strong currents before you can get anywhere worth sailing. Galilee boat ramp near the bridge to Great Island is better. I will try send you a PM with my phone number and we will see what we can work out.

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Dave, that is awesome! Congratulations on your accomplishment! The boat is beautiful! Glad to hear it is the sports car that you expected. Grahan sure designs nice boats!

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Yeah, one set of reef points.  I still haven't used them yet.  No staysail, at least yet.  I don't know that I will really feel the need or want of one.  It is a daysailor for me.  I insisted on a boat that performs well, but just to satisfy my need to try and sail well.  I don't rule anything out.  One of the best things about being the builder of your own boat is that you always know you can repair, add, tweak, admonish, etc..   And it is all part of the process.   This coming winter will be for personal touches and some creature comfort tweaks.  I want to finish a season and learn more about how I sail the boat before I commit to such things though.  Thanks for the kind words.

 

Still hoping to get some sailing photos of the boat.  So far mostly pictures from the boat.

 

This one is in the harbor of refuge protecting the entrance to the fishing port of Galilee just around the corner from Pt. Judith:

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This one is on Worden Pond near my home.  This will be a common visit when I need a convenient small dose of solo sailing for mental health reasons  Hopefully more wind though:

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Dave you note 'hot coating' the hull in epoxy - not clear form the photos, but were you using cloth as well or just resin? I love your work.

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Hey Murray.  I did all 3 coats in 24 hours, hence hot re-coating. The only glass is the tape used on interior inside corners as per plans. Cloth on the exterior would be a disaster due to 14 overlaps in the hull. Add to that my goal is almost always to stay light. 

 

Hope this helps and feel free to follow up. Very few of these have been built and only 3 I know of have been documented in this forum. There hasn't been any discussion on the Lapwing in years. Tom Lathrop, who conceived the boat is still active in the forum. In case he misses this thread update I bet he wouldn't mind a pm if you want some insider info I may not be aware of.

 

Oh, and thanks for the compliment.

 

Dave

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On 6/28/2019 at 12:15 AM, Hirilonde said:

Thanks Dave. I see reference to Tom Lathrop's mizzen sheeting method, but no photos I can find to tell show what it is. Do you know if this is a single ended arrangement taken forwards - much like a Laser? Given the mainsail is larger, I'd imagine that's the sheet you'd want to hang on to rather than the mizzen which could be cleated quite a bit of the time? 

My shed is still getting built, but I'm expecting to make a start on the boat

in January... Are you still actively sailing your boat? cheers, Murray 

 

On 6/28/2019 at 12:15 AM, Hirilonde said:

 

 

 

Hey Murray.  I did all 3 coats in 24 hours, hence hot re-coating. The only glass is the tape used on interior inside corners as per plans. Cloth on the exterior would be a disaster due to 14 overlaps in the hull. Add to that my goal is almost always to stay light. 

 

Hope this helps and feel free to follow up. Very few of these have been built and only 3 I know of have been documented in this forum. There hasn't been any discussion on the Lapwing in years. Tom Lathrop, who conceived the boat is still active in the forum. In case he misses this thread update I bet he wouldn't mind a pm if you want some insider info I may not be aware of.

 

Oh, and thanks for the compliment.

 

Dave

 

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Tom and I may have located our swivel w/block & cam cleats slightly differently, but to the same end. I wanted the main sheet to lead from in front of me like I have been used to for many years. In a blow I like to keep the sheet in my hand or at least my lap.  Hence the double ended main sheet leading to 2 swivels on the mizzen thwart/partner, one on either side of the mizzen.  And in the center, just aft of the mizzen is the mizzen sheet. This picture shows the locations:

This is my 5th season, and will probably be my most sailed season of the 5.  I just retired last fall.

 

Woohoo, another Lapwing.  I look forward to your thread.

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I'll jump in and say that, yes, the main sheet is the one you want to have readily available and in your hand, especially in gusty conditions.  My CS17 uses the same swivel-cams as Dave's lapwing, and they are well worth it.  So, when sailing in any sort of breeze, generally the downwind end is in its cam and the upwind end is in my forward hand, tiller in my rearward hand.  You can leave the mizzen cleated, and if there is a gust, it will head you up into the wind, not knock you down.  But the main will try to knock you down in a gust, just as on a sloop, so that's the one you want to be able to ease or dump in a hurry.  If you can make your boat look like Dave's, you'll be in great shape!

 

I have a double ended sheet on my mizzen, with the tails coming forward through a couple of turning blocks to swivel cams just shy of the cockpit lockers where I can reach them from either side.  

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13 hours ago, Paul356 said:

I'll jump in and say that, yes, the main sheet is the one you want to have readily available and in your hand, especially in gusty conditions.  My CS17 uses the same swivel-cams as Dave's lapwing, and they are well worth it.  So, when sailing in any sort of breeze, generally the downwind end is in its cam and the upwind end is in my forward hand, tiller in my rearward hand.  You can leave the mizzen cleated, and if there is a gust, it will head you up into the wind, not knock you down.  But the main will try to knock you down in a gust, just as on a sloop, so that's the one you want to be able to ease or dump in a hurry.  If you can make your boat look like Dave's, you'll be in great shape!

 

I have a double ended sheet on my mizzen, with the tails coming forward through a couple of turning blocks to swivel cams just shy of the cockpit lockers where I can reach them from either side.  

Thanks Paul - sound advice.  If I can make a boat anything faintly resembling Dave's - I'll be delighted. I guess i'm going to have to be patient - no short cuts!

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14 hours ago, Hirilonde said:

Tom and I may have located our swivel w/block & cam cleats slightly differently, but to the same end. I wanted the main sheet to lead from in front of me like I have been used to for many years. In a blow I like to keep the sheet in my hand or at least my lap.  Hence the double ended main sheet leading to 2 swivels on the mizzen thwart/partner, one on either side of the mizzen.  And in the center, just aft of the mizzen is the mizzen sheet. This picture shows the locations:

This is my 5th season, and will probably be my most sailed season of the 5.  I just retired last fall.

 

Woohoo, another Lapwing.  I look forward to your thread.

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Ah - a picture is a thousand words! Many thanks for your help guys...

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Just looking at this, is it possible the picture has been mirror-imaged? It appears the control lines from the main come down the port side, but in other pictures, they come down the stbd side decks?

 

Amazing to see how fast your helper is growing! Can't wait to take my grandkids sailing too...

 

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