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This is what I have on my 17, and what I used on my Bay River Skiff.

@Peter HK and @Don Silsbe, what brand of swiveling cam cleats do you use? I'd like to make that switch but I've seen the price (and presumably quality???) varies a lot. I do have the CS-20 so the loads are a bit bigger, but not a lot bigger because I have the older style, non-battened sails for now.

Jonathan, I wrapped it in the foam it came in and tuked it in the forward part of the aft locker. This weekends project is to come up with a better plan. Paul, Your install was an inspiration.

In Roswell. Sail is in good condition.

Steve, how did you secure the battery? I have been setting mine inside the locker but I'm worried it'll tumble and create destruction in a capsize. I saw Paul built a cool spot into his new boat to secure his.

Steve, So glad to hear that news as it will be great to hear more about your experiences with quiet motoring! I went with an ePropulsion motor too... (boat ready for painting, still need to build masts and install rigging).

Like Bob Dylan in 65, Skeena has gone electric, at least most of the time. How this happened. I put a 6HP motor on Skeena that had frward and reverse. Magical to have reverse. But the size and weight weren't great. So it was back to the Suzuki 3hp. Then I got enticed by the Epropulsion Spirit 1.0 I started looking at revues (mostly very positive, a few not) and dreamed of a quiet electrical experience with reverse. As a 6 year owner of a Chevy Bolt, I'm a huge electric fan. Low (no) maintenace, whisper quiet, lots of torque, no gas vapors, full tank every morning, no more gas station junk food, etc. So I bought one. Got it a few weeks ago. Sadly, unlike any other outboard I've ever seen, the tiller doesn't tip up and so it wouldn't fit in the space I'd created for my Suzuki. Grrhhh! Who designed this thing? But I wasn't giving up. I bought an extension cable for the battery and a lid that replaces the battery. I routed the extension into the Starboard aft compartment where the Battery now lives at it's front. This keeps the weight of the battery off the stern a bit. Used a SeaView Cable Gland. A really great product to keep the compartment water tight. Here is the motor on Skeena. I do have to rotate the motor 90 degrees and before I tip up to accomidate the tiller handle (dumb). While I don't have any video, I wil say that this expencsive toy is a joy. I backed into a slip in Burlington Vermont while I was talking on my cell phone. Incredible. I do have range anxiety and less money. At 3.2 knots in calm seas it goes 8 hours. More to come.

I used a pair of swiveling cam cleats like Peter used. They worked well on my Bay River Skiff, so they are part of my Core Sound 17 improvements. I also had motor mount problems. I did the simple fix, and hung a fixed bracket on the transom. I’ll be at this fall’s Messabout, although I’m leaving early. Look for me. I’m sailing my CS17 Windependent.

I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I got the primer coat on. This is the worst possible time of year to be doing this. With the heat and humidity, I’m soaking through two tee shirts a day. For several reasons, I’m saving the area from the forward thwart on forward for September/October. I want to go sailing! (And appease my patient wife.) Looks like it is going to happen soon. Fingers crossed.

Excellent! Thanks Alan.

The 2025 Messabout is scheduled for the 17-19 of October this year. Hope to see a lot of people there! https://bandbyachtdesigns.com/annualmessabout/

I'm looking forward to the 2025 B&B Messabout; hope to see everyone there. Any idea when it will be? I need to put in for leave (also Don wants to know).

So I should've worked on the transom first? In all reality, between the blue and white striped sails and the multiple teenage boys in the boat I doubt anyone has time to look at the finish work!

Hi Joe, the Coppercoat seems to be effective on Kalos, it was chosen because it “trailers” well. Carol mixed and mixed and mixed, a friend and I rolled it on. 5 coats with some of the “leftovers “ on the leading edges of the bow, keel and rudder. The copper tends to settle in the roller pan so pretty much constant stirring seems to work best. It rolls about like a heavy latex paint. Hope to see some “vertical “ progress this week, and yep, it’s durn hot in the shop.

I used swivelling cam cleats on the thwart which worked even when leaning and I much preferred this to reaching aft for the mizzen sheet. Cheers Peter HK

Hey, Don: Thanks for the info. Since all of the other battens are stitched in, I cut a couple of battens I already had to approximate length and put a couple of stitches in, just like the others. I may change it later, but I'm pretty busy this summer and plan to sail it the way it is for a while. I'm planning to come to the Messabout this fall, so I'll probably bring it. The prior owner changed the rigging layout as well, and I haven't decided yet how I'll change it - whether to return it to the original plan, or if I'll add my own thoughts. Basically, he changed the sheeting so that it runs to a central cam cleat. It works pretty well if you're sitting in the boat, but makes it hard to cleat if you're leaning out at all. The other thing he did was add a motor well. The jury is still out on that as well, as my 2.5 hp Suzuki doesn't fit very well. A good thing he did was make a little "crane" to lift the main mast while on the trailer. It's very simple, made from a single 2x4, and works great. Usually, I raise the masts by hand while I'm standing on the dock a couple of feet above the boat, but the crane is very handy if I'm launching from a different ramp. I'll get some pics next time I go out.

Andy sail anything fast by them and people will overlook the looks

Jay, Nice to see you making progress. Must be pretty warm. You are obviously a Coppercoat fan. Are you applying with a roller? The website says water miscible two part epoxy. Does Coppercoat behave like a normal epoxy? I think I recall your saying the huge amount of powdered copper makes mixing a challenge. Looking forward to seeing the deckhouse in place as I am sure you are.

Two tone? Park it right next to the Core Sound that weirdly has varnished topsides, a painted deck, and varnished interior. You'll fit right in, buddy!

@Andy Woerner— Did I say screws? That’s not right! I used epoxy only. Wonder what I was smoking…

@Captain Tim— Don’t I wish Brodie was helping! For some mysterious reason, he has disappeared.

Just arrived in Newport, Rhode Island, where were going to be based for a few weeks/months. We've got a Spindrift 11N. Just curious to see if there are any other B&B boat owners around in the area? Would be delighted to invite you aboard the mothership for a beer.

Update on the Looper project. Been some minor delays because of family commitments but back at work more “intensively “. Coppercoat is finally finished on the bottom, any idea how much fun it is sanding the bottom with 320…. It seems the formulation has changes slightly since we applied Coppercoat on Kalos! Much harder! The photo with the pinkish look is the sanded and completed Coppercoat . Anyway she is all sanded, upright and awaiting the deckhouse.

I can't believe you don't have your "grand-neighbor Brodie" scraping away. Just tell him, "It builds character"

“Two tone” can at least be functional.