ecgossett Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Oh I had a lot of compliments from the yacht club members out on the Clubhouse Boat for a barbeque on my excellent boat handling etc. Well it was my first time, but I have to thank Randy Jones for taking me out, and getting a feel for it, it sure helped. This design is so simple, yet sporty that our STMYC commodore had no problem, did not need any explanations/tutoring, and smartly took it around the harbor then flipped around and parked next to the houseboat. When it's all said it's a easy boat to handle. The 2hp Honda 4-stroke I tried was nice but for a little more weight am going to buy a 3.5hp not sure what brand.. With the very strong currents I fought today I would like a little more speed without having to go full throttle. The 2 did push the boat really really easy. Possible Names (looking for feedback): wayward traveler Green Eggs & Hamm Eat Peas Feeling Nauti Bite Me DON'T PANIC (Upside Down) 42 Oh and maybe some SOS instructions upside down on the side as well *grin* for all those naysayers. - Edward PS I will be building the ladder Duck-works website recommends on the back. After swimming in the river today, the CS17 is not the easiest to get back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_stewart Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Congratulations on the launch! Beautiful boat. Major accomplishment. You'll always have a to-do list on a wooden boat; or as Hirilonde noted "A boat isn't finished until she sinks." I like 'wayward traveler'. Have you thought about 'deployment' ? That way you could always say "Let me check my calendar... oh sorry, I'll be out on 'deployment' that weekend." --Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkisting Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Ditto on "wayward traveler"--I like the spirit of adventure that conjures up. "Feelin' Nauti" is also cute, but maybe too cute... if it were me, I'd look back on it a few years down the road and the cleverness would eventually wear off so that I would end up disliking it. Paul's idea to call it "deployment" is also a good suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Not a bad idea. I just hope very much that I didn't miss any important structural things, or screw anything up that could sink me. I have already noticed one suspicious crack in paint on the aft end of the centerboard 3 inches along where the plywood wall is attached to post. Everything was coated and inside walls are glasses in 6ounce cloth. Maybe I didn't seal one side well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jones Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Edward, You are a natural CS17 sailer and didn't need any training from me. As for the name, it never hurts to name it after your wife although I do like the mystery of "42". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinoyPiper Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Congrats on the launch... I thought we might be launching around the same time, as our progress level looked similar, but I didn't know you were in a hurry. I'm still waiting on my sails and the trailer. A Douglas Adams fan... nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hagan Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 The 2hp Honda 4-stroke I tried was nice but for a little more weight am going to buy a 3.5hp not sure what brand.. With the very strong currents I fought today I would like a little more speed without having to go full throttle. The 2 did push the boat really really easy. Check with Graham on this ... there's no reason to buy more outboard than you need, and the extra weight on the transom will slow the boat down in light airs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMoon Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Oh I had a lot of compliments from the yacht club members out on the Clubhouse Boat for a barbeque on my excellent boat handling etc. Well it was my first time, but I have to thank Randy Jones for taking me out, and getting a feel for it, it sure helped. This design is so simple, yet sporty that our STMYC commodore had no problem, did not need any explanations/tutoring, and smartly took it around the harbor then flipped around and parked next to the houseboat. When it's all said it's a easy boat to handle. The 2hp Honda 4-stroke I tried was nice but for a little more weight am going to buy a 3.5hp not sure what brand.. With the very strong currents I fought today I would like a little more speed without having to go full throttle. The 2 did push the boat really really easy. Possible Names (looking for feedback): wayward traveler Green Eggs & Hamm Eat Peas Feeling Nauti Bite Me DON'T PANIC (Upside Down) 42 Oh and maybe some SOS instructions upside down on the side as well *grin* for all those naysayers. - Edward PS I will be building the ladder Duck-works website recommends on the back. After swimming in the river today, the CS17 is not the easiest to get back on. Never name your boat with a pun. "Feelin' Nauti" only belongs on a large gin-palace powerboat owned by a strip-club manager! As for the SOS instructions... No lie, I painted the centerboard on my EC challenge Daysailer bright distress orange. I figured if I ever turtled out in the Gulf of Mexico, it woud be a good thing to have a three and a half foot tall bright orange beacon for any rescuers to see. I'm planning on doing the same on my CS17 before next year's EC. Also, orange foils are FAST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkisting Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 The 2hp Honda 4-stroke I tried was nice but for a little more weight am going to buy a 3.5hp not sure what brand.. With the very strong currents I fought today I would like a little more speed without having to go full throttle. The 2 did push the boat really really easy. We have a 3.5 hp Merc on our CS20 and it does very well. I can't find it, but awhile back I had posted detailed performance measures on our motor based on real-world experience. That thread topic appears to have gone missing, though. The motor, at about half throttle, moves us at an average speed of about 5 knots (about 6 mph) and only slightly slower than that (about 4.5 knots) at one-third throttle. Anything over half-throttle is a waste of gas and significantly higher noise, but we have squeezed out as high as 5.9 knots of speed at full throttle (6.2 if we don't have the weight of the masts/sails aboard). There is plenty of reserve power, though, for combatting currents and winds. I suspect you would see similar performance on a CS17 using this motor, possibly slightly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Long shaft or short shaft?? I used a long two but seemed that I had to tilt the motor forward when raised to get prop out of water. This interfered a little with sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkisting Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Mine is a short-shaft, hung on a custom-built outboard mount. I'd probably buy a light duty "lifting outboard bracket" which should work with both a short or long shaft and also give enough extension aft to avoid fouling the sheets when the motor is tilted forward. Others have gone with that solution and should be able to recommend a brand. Garelick is one maker, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Upgrading Rudder Post In the process of removing the current tiller to upgrade it, I found a small crack in my rudder post After I cut it out I found paint and epoxy had worked there way inside the crack. This makes me think it was already existing in the wood. I used West Systems 106 Structural filler added to epoxy to fill it. The new piece should be strong. In this photo you can sea the piece that was cracked and the epoxy & paint that penetrated along the crack. Filled with filler and clamped together. This is good practice for emergency repairs underway. I also finished my seats, 3M 4000 caulk and screws on outer part of hinge, and on lid part I used 3/8" x 1/2"long SS bolts backed with washers to ensure a strong seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 The upgraded rudder post worked great, no creaks or groans from the wood!! After repeated fixes my 1958 Elgin finally works, I just can't pull the rope all the way out or it doesn't retract. I finished/redid my sailing blog for the actual sailing http://cumberlandsound.blogspot.com I did find that Dark Green paint scratches, rubes off very easily, two part might be tougher then one part. - Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy Hill Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Just have to put in my opinion. For some reason I just have a thing against two-word names. I'd go for TRAVELER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Oh 'onions' on name have been made by the yacht club.. Two people where rudely asked by yours truly when the last time their expensive boat with a nautical sounding name and perfect everything had moved out of the marina. Most like how the boat sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 I've noticed mostly on my main sail the upper half of my leech, luffs a little even when I have good wind in the sail. Is this a result of not having battens installed yet?? Has anyone else had similar issues? Edward http://cumberlandsailing.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 I've noticed mostly on my main sail the upper half of my leech, luffs a little even when I have good wind in the sail. Is this a result of not having battens installed yet?? Has anyone else had similar issues? Edward http://cumberlandsailing.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMoon Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 I've noticed mostly on my main sail the upper half of my leech, luffs a little even when I have good wind in the sail. Is this a result of not having battens installed yet?? I"m guessing you have the sleeved sails then? Does it have leech lines you could adjust? Mine has the battened racing sails. Only problem I had was yesterday when I was letting the sail flog for a minute while fooling around in the boat, one of the battens launched itself out and sank. Didn't seem to hurt the sail at all, though. Going to buy a new one (and spares) pronto. The other great trick I learned yesteday is that you *MUST* ease the snotter if you want to sail with the main by the lee in strong winds. I was going about 11 mph when eased a bit too far and the main boom split right down the glue line. (I didn't build it.) I'd always thought that glue line looked suspect and now I know. I did discover you can sail downwind at a pretty good clip under mizzen alone in strong winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgossett Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Track sails.. I guess I need to get leech line installed. - Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkisting Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Do you have extra roach in the sails? If so, I think it is very likely the battens. We lost a batten out of the main one time and had the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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