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  1. Randy Jones

    B&B's first annual "Capsize Camp" July, 20-22

    Graham, Thanks for responding. My thought is to do a shallow water test on a sandbar and see if I can find the equilibrium point with the board up and 80 pounds of batteries mounted on the forward floor. If that goes well I'll try it in water deep enough to put the board down. I'll follow up after testing. Randy
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    B&B's first annual "Capsize Camp" July, 20-22

    Has anyone capsized tested a Belhaven 19? Calculations say stable to 80 degrees before the batteries, fuel, extra lead in the keel, and of course the wine cellar and hot tub. She behaves so much like a keel boat that my 200# on the rail doesn't result in much heel. After a few years of comfortable sailing I've become complacent. Left wondering after reading these posts if she would really roll on over if pushed to 80 or 90 degrees. Certainly not much buoyancy in the mast. I think I will tighten up the lockers and round up some "rail meat" for shallow water testing. Randy
  3. Randy Jones

    topping lift for cs17 ?

    On my CS17Mk1 I use the mizzen staysail halyard to hold up the end of the main boom. For the mizzen I untie the mizzen halyard and attach it to the end of the mizzen boom while using the mizzen sheets to prevent sway. Similar for Belhaven except the end of the mizzen boom sometimes rest on top of the folded bimini. I also put a sail tie around the mast and boom to prevent the boom from banging against the mast.
  4. Randy Jones

    Advice on motor mount CS17

    10 years myself with no motor, but there are times it would sure be nice. Does that three legged thing seem solid once mounted and can you tip the long shaft motor up and keep the propeller out of the water?
  5. Randy Jones

    Core Sound 20 Mark III #3 "Jazz Hands"

    If you're looking for green I recommend Marshalls Cove "Martha Green" available from duckworks. It is a good old fashioned oil based marine enamel that looks good rolled and tipped. Rich, soft color unlike the fancy paints that seem to come only in primary colors. Mine went on beautifully over the two part system three silver tip yacht primer. Paired it with varnished mahogany rail, System Three San Juan Tan on the deck and burgundy canvas. The green does heat up in the sunlight but it hasn't been a problem here in Seattle. Your progress is impressive, keep up the good work.
  6. Randy Jones

    Belhaven or CS 20 Mk 3

    Brent, I've got Scott's Belhaven 19 now and like it almost as much as he does. I think the major considerations between the two designs you're comparing are: B19 advantages: The feel and comfort of a keelboat in a beachable 19 feet boat. Cabin is crazy big for a 19 foot boat and holds six adults for happy hour. Bimini is choice shade. Comfortable double berth with Pilot berth for a third crew. B19 compromises: The lead keel is obviously always present. You've got to tow it around and drag it thru the water where it adds wetted surface area and doesn't provide any meaningful lift. I have a hard time keeping up with other sailboats in light air but catch up once I breakout the mizzen staysail. I can plane in heavier wind but have not gotten much over 7 knots. That's faster than displacement boats but can't touch the Mk3. Have to have an outboard. Must go forward along a narrow side deck to access the anchor and mainsail depending upon how you set that up. CS20Mk3 advantages: Faster, points higher and probably just a better sailor. Easier tow, safer forward access via the hatch. Could omit the outboard if you like to row. I suspect CS plans are better developed and you don't have to cast a keel. CS20M3 compromises: Less cabin volume, perhaps no Bimini. May not be the gathering spot for happy hour but I suspect it is adequate for a couple. Both good choices. enjoy.
  7. Randy Jones

    Trailer for Core Sound Mark 3 boats.

    Dave, I did not modify the bunks for the Belhaven trailer. Laid flat the way they are, they deflect pretty well to match the bottom of the boat. My thinking was to have the good support beneath the 350lb keel and then hold the plywood portion of the boat up with the bunks. One annoying aspect of bunk set-up is that the bolt holes for height adjustments are in one inch increments. I got it close but should really go back and put a spacer between the bracket and the bunk to get the forward elevation of the bunk correct. Lots of "trailer trial and error", really no other way around it. One last recommendation specific to the Belhaven - Since she needs 10 inches to float and is pretty big to push around you really want to keep the boat as low as possible on the trailer or you won't be able to launch at shallow ramps.
  8. Randy Jones

    Trailer for Core Sound Mark 3 boats.

    An additional photo that didn't post first time around. I float on to this position then crank in the last few feet. Build more Belhavens.
  9. Randy Jones

    Trailer for Core Sound Mark 3 boats.

    I received a PM requesting info about my Belhaven 19 trailer and thought I would share it here. Trailer is a year 2015 Easyloader EZB 17-20 3100 with two adjustable cross members, two keel rollers, disc type surge brakes and 15 inch wheels with oil bath hubs. The boat sits between the fenders with the bottom of the keel about 14 inches above ground. The plank up front is where the keel rest. You'll notice in the photos that the rollers have flattened out which is fine since I don't want to push 1,200 pounds of boat off the trailer anyway. Everything is working fine even if it looks like MacGyver did the modifications.
  10. Randy Jones

    Trailer for Core Sound Mark 3 boats.

    I have the oil bath bearings on EZ Loader trailers for the Belhaven 19 and CS17. They have been trouble free for years and still showing oil half full. Also a big fan of the LED lights. I'm a lazy "float on", "float off' guy. I've mounted a 2x12 plank down the middle of the trailers and it works well as a walking ramp during retrieval. Even with boots on, keeping your feet out of the 50F water is important for winter sailing because you'll never get them warm again. On the lighter boat (CS17), I built a simple frame to rest across the cockpit where the straps cross it. This allows me to strap the boat down tight enough to prevent it bouncing around on the trailer. The ratchet strap tie-downs stay fixed to the frame which also saves a few minutes each launching. I say go galvanized and don't spend a moment worrying about getting the trailer wet. A million ways to do this and they're all right.
  11. Randy Jones

    CS17 mooring

    I'm considering using a 55lb cast iron anvil to moor my CS17 in a very sheltered bay with rock bottom. The $65 price and lack of shipping costs is attractive. This would be a temporary illicit mooring until I can navigate the permitting situation for a legal mooring properly augured into the seafloor out in deeper water. I would not be leaving the boat unattended - I'd be nearby where I could watch it crash into the rocks. I need to do some review of the bottom if we every get a daylight low tide, but it looks like a bedrock slab with loose rock , boulders, and perhaps a thin layer of mud as you get deeper. Questions 1. I'm thinking that on a rock bottom I've got to go for dead weight and not expect to catch or dig into anything (not that an anvil would anyway). Is that how it works? 2. My particular location is watched very closely by "concerned citizens" which could lead to the State impounding the mooring. Anyone see a cheaper alternative other than 100lb rocks? 3. Would 2 or 3 of these make a respectable mooring? thanks
  12. Randy Jones

    Meet Belhaven 19 - Clementine

    Scott, I replaced the starboard side cockpit hatch with the standard design and it works beautifully to keep things dry. I intended to replace the port side hatches but ran out of time, so I went with a manufactured hatches instead. All along I had assumed the gaskets on the hatches were leaking but upon removal found that the sealant between the hatch and deck had hardened and the sealant to deck bond completely failed. The result was this tiny crack that sucked rainwater into the compartment. Replacement hatches with fresh sealant is working ok but I'll convert the hatches when I run out of projects. Regarding paint, I kinda borrowed the color scheme from the photo below of a Thunderbird which is a Pacific NW one design with hard chine plywood construction in common with a Belhaven19. The brighter green could not get Spousal approval so I went with the darker Martha Green.
  13. Randy Jones

    Meet Belhaven 19 - Clementine

    Thanks everyone. This has got to be the friendliest place on the internet. I certainly took some risk messing with a great design and a carefully built boat. Here's a couple photos of the new lid going on, in the shop at the NW Maritime Center in Port Townsend WA. and another from the deck of the ferry.
  14. Randy Jones

    Meet Belhaven 19 - Clementine

    b Hello all, I thought it might be time to share the modifications to Belhaven 19 hull #3 that I purchased a few years ago. Yellow is the "before" photo (credit to Doryman, dory-man.blogspot.com) taken a few years ago at Hood Canal WA. The green photo (credit to Marty Loken, www.pocketyachters.com) was New Year's day 2018 at Rat Island near Port Townsend Washington. The name Clementine is a holdover from the yellow color and I'm sticking with it. Other than the obvious difference in paint color, you'll notice the cabin top is higher. Original cabin top was removed, front and sides scarfed and extended up about 4 inches. Cabin roof was replaced with a three layer 4mm plywood lamination without ceiling beams. The standard forward hatch was omitted to maximize the sliding hatch length. The result is full sitting head room inside the cabin and a comfortable spot to stand with the hatch open. It doesn't appear to have affected the boat's center of gravity or trim, but I admit that the extra height doesn't help the looks. I'm still messing with completing the control lines, interior paint, and wiring. Once I run out of projects I intend to replace the windows with oval framed fixed lights similar to the CS series in an attempt to pretty up the taller cabin. I may also paint a "hat" on the cabin top as a trick to bring the height down a little. I'm still in love with the boat and can't imagine a more comfortable 19 foot trailer sailor for tall people. Questions welcome. Build more Belhavens
  15. Randy Jones

    Core Sound 20 Mark III #3 "Jazz Hands"

    Oversized wire reduces voltage drop -no harm as long as you can afford it. I didn't see any mention of a battery isolation switch. I'm using one with "A, B, A+B, OFF" options and two 42 pound 55 Amp hour AGM batteries. Two little batteries were easier to lift and conceal. There is also some piece of mind knowing I've got a battery held in reserve and using the off switch to ensure all loads are disconnected during storage. I also used circuit breaker blocks as a substitute for fuse blocks as it eliminates carrying a collection of spare fuses and the need to find them at the most inconvenient of times. My system with parallel batteries and circuit breaker block is "over engineered" but that was the fun part. I've lasted 5 days without recharging, could of course do better if I added a solar charger.

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