Randy Jones

This post and the video have been a great help. My replacement hatch for Belhaven #3 is nearly complete and I'm contemplating the hinge installation. I intend to drill oversized holes, fill them with epoxy, and re-drill as seems to be standard. Are wood screws adequate or should I through bolt with machine screws? Seems to me the wood screws would be more waterproof but not as strong. What have other's done and has anyone had any failures that might be educational. Thanks

Adam, I went looking for a Belhaven 19 on the west coast last year and never found one. I've got one you can look at if you ever get to Seattle. Good luck and please start a thread to share your build with us.

Hi Scott, Your Belhaven sits in "winter quarters" - my driveway in Seattle covered with a blue tarp and undergoing minor work while it rains, rains, rains. I'm staying with the yellow color as it has grown on me and the family likes it. Little projects so far have been a new hatch cover for the anchor locker, slightly revised mizzen sheeting, a standing block for the mainsail snotter that improves tension, and flush mounting the radio to gain more cockpit seating. I also built a real stairway with a landing for getting safely in and out of the boat while on the trailer. I'll be back on the water New Years Day and will post photos if I can figure out how to do it. Plans are to replace the rear hatches with the standard watertight design, refinish the bright work and spend my summer sailing Puget Sound. Thanks for building such a cool boat.

Bob, I think it has more to do with the "self vanging" effect of the sprit booms or perhaps the weight of the yards up high. Perhaps someone that knows more will come along shortly.

Bob, I've sailed my standard rig CS17 many times in the company of boats with the rig you are proposing. They seem to have an advantage reaching while I have an advantage on most of them regarding pointing. The other significant thing is the lug guys avoid sailing dead down wind out of concerns about "death rolls" and I've never seen them let their sails fly forward like we do with the standard rig. As you probably know the standard rig on the CS is a joy to sail downwind and you can let boom out past 90 degrees if you need to depower. Sounds like a fun experiment. good luck

I've returned home to Seattle with Belhaven 19 hull #3 built by Scott in 2006 and purchase last month from Rick in North Carolina. I plan to bring the boat to the Puget Sound Traditional Small Craft messabout in Port Townsend Washington on Saturday Oct 11. There seems to be a growing population of forum visitors located in Western Washington and you are all welcome to inspect the Belhaven (just look for the yellow boat). Check out "tsca.net/Puget/" for details on the messabout which includes an afternoon potluck.

I've got the CS17 shown on the B&B site without battens or roach on the sail. We have a lot of light air during summer up here on Puget Sound and I would go high roach and battens if I was buying new sails. I'm not the racing type but have been six years behind the mast now with no motor and I've always made it home. I haven't seen it mentioned above but don't overlook the fact that the CS17 is a very comfortable boat for a family day sail. Seats have good back support, no one has to dodge the boom, and it is easy for kids to sail.

I may have the worst case scenario of a CS17 with solid Doug fir masts and laced sails. The main mast with sail and boom attached is 34 pounds, but most of the weight is at the bottom. Thanks everyone for the info on weights - I had no idea I was sailing in the stone age.

Paul, I sent you a PM with my contact info. I like the idea of putting our boats together and suspect they'll accommodate it as long as we get them there early enough. Lynn -are you thinking of converting it into a Belhaven 15? Randy

Paul, Consider putting it on a utility trailer and bringing it up to the pocket yacht palooza in Port Townsend July 19. It may be the only boat show I know that would welcome an incomplete project. There were 75 small boats on display last year and the crowd is full of individuals that would be tempted to take her home. I'm in Seattle too. Will have my CS17 at the Palooza. Send me a message if you'd like to more details.

Joe, I'm up in Seattle and have had a CS17 since 2008. I've met a number of people around here that should be interested in your boat. You might consider bringing it up to the "pocket yacht palooza" (free) boat show in Port Townsend Washington on July 19 (pocketyachters.com). Also the Pocket Yachters have a great "boats for sale" section on their website and so does the "Small Craft Advisor" magazine (smallcraftadvisor.com). Both would target locals. Best of luck with your hip surgery.

Yes, it is true. Thank you Rick. I've started a new thread regarding transportation of the Belhaven towards Seattle. FYI, shipping quotes ranged from $4,600 to $7,100 for transport from NC to WA and it turned out that rail shipping containers can't accommodate the 7'11" trailer width. I also discovered plenty of horror stories regarding dishonest shippers which sold me on the road trip option.

I'm purchasing Belhaven #3 currently located in Washington NC with the plan to trailer it home to Seattle WA in early September. If there is a forum member with an interest in pulling the 2,000 pound boat/trailer this direction please chime in or send me a private message. Even getting it a portion of the way to Seattle would be a huge help in reducing both my round trip miles and the associated "spousal agitation". My initial thoughts are compensation of 52 cents per mile made good in the direction of travel. Good excuse for a road trip. Thanks, Randy Jones

Rick, I've identified four options so far: Direct haul on the trailer, transport on/in a truck, container ship by train, and the "come and get it road trip". I've already requested pricing on the direct haul. Shipping by container on a train seems the most risky but a friend in the shipping business has offered to price it for me. Your "relay" idea is intriguing. Even getting it half way here would cut 3,000 miles off my round trip which starts to make the road trip feasible. A couple more questions: What's the overall length, width and height? Also, can you estimate the tongue weight? That boat would be just right for Puget Sound. thanks

I'm seriously interested. My first step is to check out feasibility and cost of shipping to Seattle Washington. The cost I will figure out, but wondering if it is practical to ship a boat 3,100 miles without damage. Any experienced boat shippers out there?

your topic caught my eye. The pacific northwest is discovering the coresound series of boats and I suspect it will be awhile before we see them at the Seattle Boat Show. There are just two or three CS17's in Washington State. If you haven't seen one yet you're welcome to visit mine in north Seattle. I made it out on new years day but it won't hit the water again until the weather warms up. Send me a private message and we'll work something out.

There is just something about the Belhaven that appeals to me more than CS20MK3. Guess I'll just wait for Lynn to build his Belhaven.

Is there a Belhaven 19 anywhere close to Seattle that someone would like to show off? I am thinking a Belhaven 19 will be my next boat and would like to have a look. Thanks Randy Jones

Terry, You'll see plenty of balanced lug sails up at Port Townsend. I've sailed my CS17 in their company many times and have admired their relatively large sail areas and wondered what they would do on the coresound hull. I cannot catch the big lug sails on broad reaches but it appears I have an advantage in pointing against most of them. I've also noticed they avoid running dead down wind and never sheet out past 90 degrees due to concerns about rolling. When you get more time on the water it would be interesting to hear more, especially regarding speed, pointing, and stability downwind. I'll be showing my CS17 at Port Townsend (on a trailer) - stop and say hello if you have time.

Edward, I framed my basement this summer with some very nice spruce (rated SPF) purchased from Dunn Lumber in Seattle. Looks like maybe it is second growth and it seemed too good for house framing. I'm told it is being imported from Canada. I recommend you go have a look at some of the 2x6 and 2x8 in longer lengths as some of those were nearly knot free. I don't recall pricing but it should be significantly cheaper than VG fir. Randy Jones

Paul, enyoyed your post. "Pitter-Patter" would make a fine boat name.

I'm officially registered. CS17 hull#152 will be there on a trailer. Randy Jones

Hello all, I found overprice lodgings for the weekend of the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival and now I'll get to work on entering my coresound 17 in the show. The last barrier is choosing a boat name, so I better get on with that. Are there any other coresound 17's within striking distance of Port Townsend, or anywhere in Washington or Oregon for that matter? In the time since I bought my CS17 I've only seen one other boat (Edwards). Randy Jones

I like the idea of adding a bow roller to my CS17. What do others do to prevent the anchor chain from abusing the deck? Also, do you remove the achor while trailering?

Alan, Those carbon fiber mast weights are impressive. My CS 17 solid, laminated doug fir main mast is 34 pounds with sail and boom, 24 pounds naked. It is almost a foot longer at 19'-8" but that's still quite a difference. An 11 pound mast will feel like a toy.