Paul356 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Ya, I didn't get any smaller sheets or sail number info either. No wonder I'm scratching my head sometimes. I guess I didn't know what I was missing. Matt and Tru, the inwales look great. Good for you. Quote
Chick Ludwig Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 WHAT???? You're supposed to actually READ the instructions??? Quote
MattandTru Posted October 28, 2014 Author Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah we don't have any small sheets But i guess were doing pretty good considering Did a bunch of filleting and tapping on the bow and glued in the forward bulkhead. Quote
Dnjost Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Matt - I put together a blog of my progress doing my CS 17. Decidedly amateurish in nature, but may help you avoid many of the errors encountered along the way. Steps should be evident from the blog posts. http://jostboats.blogspot.com/ Yes, after I had the hull aligned, inwales on, and taped the transom and bulkhead, I put the keel batten on. Was pretty straightforward, other than the battery I punctured with the drill. (stupid and dangerous decision). Good luck. David Quote
Designer Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 If you feel that you are missing plan or instruction sheets, give Carla a call. If she does not answer, try another time. Quote
MattandTru Posted November 2, 2014 Author Posted November 2, 2014 Taped the chine today. Took off the wires on the chine but not the keel Quote
MattandTru Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 Happy to have any advice on shaping the keel batten. I know it has a varying angle and the angles are on the pretty pictures part of the plans. Have people just roughed out on the table saw and tweaked with hand plane? We have the rear bulkhead in, so we will need to scarf together two pieces. Have people taped the seam first under the batten? That is what we are imagining. Then clamp with screws and pads from under the cradle? I think in Alan's videos, he just sort of has it in one day, when it wasn't there before, like a magic trick. Has anyone used any "Aruco" which is the clear South American (Chilean) "pine" that is sold at Menard's as "black label" premium trim material? It is nice material to work with in the trim carpentry world. -Matt and Tru Quote
Peter HK Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 I marked the varying bevels, which I took from the plans and checked on the boat, as a line on each side of the keel batten and marked the centre line on the batten itself and then attacked it with the power plane (caution- some experience with power planes advised) and finished with hand plane /sander. Took a bit of time to accurately mark it and 10 mins to shape it. I had taped the centre seam first (which is not actually necessary) which meant I could screw through the tape from above to hold the batten in place which was a bit easier than crawling underneath and was easy to do single handed. The fit will never be perfect so plan for plenty of thickened epoxy when gluing it down. Cheers Peter HK Quote
Dnjost Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 To lay out the batten, I took the bevel right off the sole with a bevel tool every foot, and then transferred the lines to the plank. I then cut to depth with the back saw creating lines to plane to, then planed to angle. I weighted down the batten and screwed from beneath and did a dry fit, then applied the epoxy slurry and screwed down permanently. Hope that helps. Quote
MattandTru Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 Dnjost, great tip on the saw cuts as guides to find the angle. I can visualize that easily and it makes perfect sense. Did you glass the seam under the batten first? I want to glass it in at least a few places before I cut the wires off the seam. Then I would incline to just running a tape down the length before putting the batten in. thoughts? Quote
Dnjost Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 I am sure I taped the interior front to back and all sides prior to putting the batten in. I would suggest asking some more experienced builders. I have learned that if you built it, you can rebuild it. Over and over. Today, I just noticed the internal cleats for the external cleats for the center thwart. There is a bead of hardened epoxy just under the rail where these need to go. The multi-tool is my best friend . Here is the link to my blog that talks about the keel batten. This is when I did a very stupid and dangerous thing. by using marine batteries to hold the batten down while screwing it down from underneath. don't even think about it. http://jostboats.blogspot.com/2013/08/keel-batten.html Quote
LennieG Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 The other guys know better than I, but I came through the shaping of the keel batten fairly well. As I recall, and I am not in front of the plans, there were three sections with different angles. I cut the entire board on a table saw at the smallest angle. Second, I cut the third section from the other end of the board at the largest angle. That left the middle section, which I did by hand. The whole thing took 15 minutes and came out great. Installing it was stressful, in part because my cradle has a center 2x6 running under the center line and it was tough positioning the drill. Otherwise I have loved my cradle and would prefer it than one that is too low for my girth..... I did not glass the CL prior to installing keel batten. Good luck Matt Quote
Paul356 Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 I picked up bevels, sawed them into the keel batten stock, and planed to connect them. I screwed down a lot of it through the bottom but used some Irwin hand clamps "in reverse" to push into the sharpest curve just aft of the forward bulkhead, and that worked really well. You should be able to do your scarfs as you lay it into the bottom and screw or clamp it. I did not tape the bottom first. That will come some day when the hull is flipped. It's covered in my previous posts but I don't know how to link to them. See # 69 and #70 in "CS 17". Quote
MattandTru Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 Hi all, Still filleting and taping filleting and taping. We put together the hatch assemblies and will install them next. Still need to do the keel batten We have a white teddy bear designated to be the figure head. He/she will be epoxied with any leftover we have at the end. Tru wants to install a mini-fridge and hard wire a boombox into the forward bulkhead. Still working on the gunk-holer aesthetic with him. We need to paint the insides of the compartments soon so we can put seats in. -M and T, the boss! 1 Quote
MattandTru Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 we coated the whole inside of the boat! still dreading the keel batten but planing on doing that next. i still don't see why we need to sand it. i keen i know that its important and all it just looks so pretty -Tru (the boss) Quote
MattandTru Posted February 9, 2015 Author Posted February 9, 2015 sorry we haven't posted anything lately Ive had a lot of work for school and we've haven't done much but got the seats in and i'm doing this project for school and its due in march so we are going to try to get it painted at least for when its due we epoxied all the seat and deck parts in our basement when it was to cold to work in the shop (my dad told me to wright that) :rolleyes: -Tru(the boss) :D Quote
LennieG Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 Boss- How about some pictures. That should be easy for you! Quote
MattandTru Posted March 15, 2015 Author Posted March 15, 2015 you want photos? lots of photos sorry about the duplicate Quote
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