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  1. Well y'all. It's almost time to start my new boat. As you know, we spent a lot of time fooling around on a CS-15 Mk-3, but finally decided on the 17. Alan says that the kit should be done in 2-3 weeks. I'll drive down to pick it up, so won't need a shipping box. There are a few things that I want to modify and a few questions. just so you guys can join in with suggestions right from the start. By the way, I'll be using a tabernacle for the mizzen too as i'll need to lower the rig with sails attached to go under bridges. I'll mostly be single handing. Here is what I sent to Alan in a message. The Master is out of town for a bit, so I'm dealing with the Junior Master. "Here's the things we talked about today. And some we didn't. 1. Cooler needs to fit through a 10" x 16" hatch opening. Maybe use 2 hatches on one side of the boat? Open to suggestions. 2. Don't need shipping box, but do need the plywood cradle parts. Are dimensions of the spacing for these on the drawings somewhere? 3. Need to know height of foot of mizzen to allow a Bimini top to clear it. Height above coaming would be best, but from sole, seat top, or other measurable spot on boat. 4. In addition to regular hardware, I'll need: 3-4" deck cleats, 2-chocks, opening ports. is the hatch for the ballast tank included? I'll need it. Reefing hardware and lines if not included. Extra bulls eye fairleads to run all lines from main mast to aft end of cabin top. Could you make me a couple of the "one-legged wing nuts" for the mast "holder-upper" (couldn't think of proper nomenclature) bolt? 5. 3/4" stainless hollow back rubrail and keel strip, and 1/2" strip long enough to go from bow eye to under bow to join 3/4" keel strip. 6. Carla said she'd get the sails on the next order, but I forgot to tell her that I want "sausage" bags for them so I can leave the battens in place. 7. Would you have a couple of short sections of mast tubing to use to align the tabernacles? I don't have ceiling height in my garage to use the actual mast sections. Or is there a p.v.c. pipe size the same? 8. I would want to be able to open the forward hatch to raise/lower the main mast, I guess I'll need to make a sliding hatch as there wouldn't be enough clearance to lift a regular mast with the mast down (?) Any thoughts on this? I guess that's it for now, but I'm sure i'll have more to bother you with later. Thanks for your patience! Stay warm."
  2. Chick Ludwig

    Core Sound 20 Mk 3 -- #4 "Chessie" . .

    Just gotta toss my thoughts in here. Because of roller problems on plywood boats, I decided years ago to carry most of the load on the side bunks rather than keel rollers, I mount the bunks on edge and cut them to match the rocker in the hull. They span several bulkheads so the bunks can't stress or deflect the bottom. Since the hulls float on and off the trailer, there is no need for the weight to be carried on the rollers. I've done this now with several boats, both sail and power. I'm not criticizing the trough idea. It sounds like a good idea. Just offering another way to solve the problem.
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    Bulls Bay Expedition and Messabout

    We'd LOVE to have the MASTER attend!
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    Bulls Bay Expedition and Messabout

    I'm waiting on "chat" with the Buck Hall Recreation area to get information on launch fees and overnight parking fees. Been waiting for 10 minutes so far. I tried sending a message, but it wouldn't go. Plan- C is a phone call. It's gonna be great fun exploring Bull's Bay. Especially Bull Island and Boneyard Beach. Finally called and got some info. The fee to launch/park is $5.00/day. The campground is currently closed for water issues. They had planned on opening this month, but looks like it won't happen. They SHOULD be open in time for the messabout, but didn't seem to sure. They said to call first. We'll keep you posted! The ramp IS open.
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    Summer Breeze - Core Sound 17, Mk-3

    Welcome Dimitri, and thanks for the kind words. Graham is right that I'm pleased to hear of your plans for the Breeze. I look forward to reading about your adventures together.
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    Bulls Bay Expedition and Messabout

    Thanks Don, but i was thinking more of you "rag" propulsion guys. Is it deep enough to sail with your board down. And ya got to follow the waterway and pass to even GET to the bay. A law of nature says that "The wind ALWAYS blows directly down the channel against you." But, don't worry, the Codger will be glad to give you a tow.
  7. Old Codger has been fussing at me to take him out for a ride on the lake. It’s been too cold. We’ve been too busy. I’ve been too sick. Too many excuses. Well the other day, the weather was warm. We weren’t very busy. I was feeling good. No more excuses. So I asked the Codger if he wanted to go. Silly question! I told Miss Debbie about our plans and she wanted to go too. I short day trip was planned. I loaded up a life jacket for Miss Debbie, a life jacket for our new pooch, Pepper, cooler for lunch, plenty of gas, and all the other stuff we’d need. I even had a couple of big cushions stashed below that were left over from my fiberglass skiff building days. Good thick comfy ones. I was anxious to try them out. Especially for Miss Debbie. Hard seats make her “bun bones” hurt. Off we went. We stopped at Subway for hoagies (subway sandwiches, y’all) to have for lunch. They went into the cooler. Oh, it was excitin’! A day on the water! On comfy seats! It was a pleasant ride down the mountain to Lake Keowee. Heading for a high of around 70 degrees. No rain. But cloudy. Just as we were getting to our favorite launching ramp, I got to thinking, “Where did I put the key for the cabin?” I know that I had set it out with my wallet and car keys last night so I wouldn’t forget it. It’s not in my pocket. Is it in Blue’s drink holder? Guess I’d better explain that “Blue” is what we call our Ford Explorer. He’s blue, ya know. No, it’s not in the drink holder. Glove compartment? No. “Miss Debbie, did you bring it?” No. Maybe I put in in Codger’s seat locker. No. Maybe in the cooler in the other seat locker. No. Check my pockets again. No. ask Miss Debbie again. NO! Gotta face the facts. No key. Hope I didn’t just lay it on Codger’s seat and it blew out on the way down the mountain. Old Codger put up with my griping and complaining as long as he could before blurting out, “ And YOU call ME the old codger?!?!” “ WHO forgot the key?” Well nothing to be done about it. At least we can still take our ride. Without the big, thick, comfy seat cushions that were locked up in the cabin. So, launch the boat, load Miss Debbie aboard with Pepper. Climb in myself and set out. I did have the throwable device (cushion) that our Coastie friends require. I sat on that. There was an old cushion from a lawn chair that I keep in Blue for when I tie a kayak on his roof, so Miss Debbie got that. The pup didn’t need a cushion. It was a pleasant ride with not much to report. The big thrill of the day, beyond eating our lunch, was stopping at a little beach on island #15 to stretch our legs and let the pup have a run. That was about it. Except maybe, in all honesty, I’d better tell y’all about another problem that soon arose from MY coginess. I always like to have a destination on these little trips. We weren’t far from a long cove where Raccoon Creek enters into the lake. It would be just about the right distance to take us through the afternoon. I looked at the lake chart to be sure I knew where we were going, and off we went. Ya gotta go around island #17 and then head into the entrance to the creek. It’s a rather large entrance, with several other coves on either side. If you missed my explanation on these island numbers in a previous story, I guess I’d better stop and explain. You guys on salt water have the aids to navigation to tell you where you are and where you’re going. Buoys. The lakes here are different. The islands that are numerous as you travel down the lake, have signs on them with a big number painted on. That number corresponds to numbers marked on the lake map. Maybe you don’t know that all of these lakes are man-made, and formed by damming up rivers that flow down out of the mountains. They are narrow, but long, with lots of coves and islands that were left above the water level when the lakes were filled. Now, back to the story. We headed up the cove that seemed to be the right one. Nope, dead end. Let’s try another. A quick look at the map, and off we go. Nope. Dang! This can be confusing! Let’s try again. That one over there must be it! Ah! That’s better, looks like we finally found the …….. DEAD END! Doggone! (Don’t worry, that’s just an expression. The dog is still sleeping on the cockpit sole.) One Last try. Let’s go back to island #17 and try to get our bearings. About now I hear Old Codger chortling. “Ha!” “If you hadn’t forgotten the key, you woulda had the GPS. With the compass. The one locked down below in the cabin. Then you’d be able to tell which direction to go.” “You dumb old codger.” What could I say. He was right. To end what’s turning out to be a long story, I’ll finish up be telling you that this time we had the right cove. It was a nice ride to the end. Raccoon Creek ends where you go under a highway bridge into a big, shallow, muddy pond where we sometimes go turtling. There’s a launch ramp nearby where we take our kayaks. On the way along the creek we saw a really cool boat. About all you ever see on the lakes are ski boats, pontoon boats, and jon boats. But here, tied to the dock is what appears to be an old raised deck power cruiser about 28 feet long. It had classic lines and was fitted out with bronze hardware and plenty of brightwork. I’d say that it would have been built back in the 30s or so. I dunno. I’ll post a couple of pictures for ya. So, back to the ramp and home. The story wouldn’t be complete without the post script. When we got home, the first thing I did was to go searching for the key. I looked where I keep my wallet and keys. No. I looked on the table in the garage next to the door where I sometimes lay things. Nope. I looked on the ground where I mighta dropped it while loading the boat earlier. No. I looked EVERYWHERE! No key. Then I went into the house wondering how I could get a new key. I only had the one. I’d lost the spare when the key ring broke last summer. Never got a copy made. About now I glance over to where the key usually hangs between boating excursions. There it was! Laughing at me. O could hear Old Codger out in the carport laughing. The dog was laughing. The cats were laughing. The turtles woulda been laughing, but turtles can’t laugh. Miss Debbie knew better than laugh. Last thing I heard was the boat saying under his breath, “And he calls ME the old codger.”
  8. Chick Ludwig

    Bulls Bay Expedition and Messabout

    Good point, Don. Is the area where we'll launch in water deep enough to sail without staying in channels, or is it mostly salt marsh? Looks like it's on the ICW and then out a channel. Then Bull's Bay. Is the bay open water? How much is the ramp Fee for folks not camping? Is there a daily charge to leave the truck/trailer there?
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    Bulls Bay Expedition and Messabout

    Sounds like fun. The Old Codger and I plan to go. Hope you "baggy wrinkle" guys can keep up as we go "sploring".
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    Building a Two Paw 8 for Trailer Camping

    NOOOOOOO!!!!! Not the dreaded air bubble!!!!!!! A TRUE craftsman would rip it all apart and start again!
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    Building a Two Paw 8 for Trailer Camping

    I would think that attaching the skeg and keel first would tend to help keep the bottom from losing it's curve. Just my opinion. No facts to back it up.
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    Building a Two Paw 8 for Trailer Camping

    Great trick! I've always used plain cardboard for this, but the foam board is even better! Now I gotta build another boat to try it out on!
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    Boat movies

    I don't know about y'all, but I'm gettin' mighty tired of this Winter jazz. As I sit here this morning, it's 26 degrees out and not expected to get above 35. Snow showers are expected. I've hardly gotten to work on Summer Breeze for weeks, much less gone boatin' in Turtler. Reading has only taken a little of the edge off. I'm up to book 12 of the wonderful Richard Bolitho series by Alexander Kent. Maybe a bit of visual stimulation will help. I have a DVD of Erskine Childers Riddle of the Sands that I think I'll watch today. I bought it used from E-bay last year. This brings me to the subject of this post. Do any of you fine ladies and gentlemen have any suggestions of good "boat movies"? Of course there are the old stand-bys like Moby Dick, Treasure Island, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, The Gregory Peck and Ioan Gruffudd movies about that intrepid war hero,Horatio Hornblower, and ,of course, the old "swashbuckler" pirate movies, but boats only play a minor role in these. Then there are lots of war movies like Harm's Way, or PT-109, but these are still not what I have in mind. I'm thinking more of movies that boats are a major part of the plot. Maybe Old Man and the Sea? So, help me out here. How about some suggestions. Let's see if we can fill the movie library with enough films to get us through this interminable Winter.
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    A Two Paw 7 build, "Catnip" . .

    COOL!
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    dutch OB 20

    Couple of suggestions as you begin your build. 1. Don't think of the entire projest and all that needs to be done. Instead, break it down into small steps, like, what you need to do in one day. Or one step in the project like cutting the bulkheads. 2. Have a "moaning chair" in or near your shop where you can sit and contemplate when things are tough. Maybe even pray for patience. My favorite patience prayer, "Dear Lord, give me patience, and GIVE IT TO ME NOW!!!!! 3. When it gets tough, confusing, or ya just wanna talk to someone friendly, get on your internet and pull up this site.
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    dutch OB 20

    This is more fun than anyone should be allowed to have!
  17. Chick Ludwig

    Ocracoke 256 hull #2 Build

    Welcome to the group, Ilias . We don't mean to ignore your question. Especially since you are in Greece. It's just that there are so many variables that it is very difficult to answer. Maybe someone can give you an answer that will be somewhere close. At least in US dollars, or Australian, or where ever they are building. Meanwhile, hang in there with us. As you begin your build, you'll have lots of help.
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    Utah OB20

    Sounds good to me, Oyster. I'l try it on my next project. Maybe using the water based Kiltz was my problem. HEY "ACTION TIGER"------Don't you have something to say about this?
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    Building a Two Paw 8 for Trailer Camping

    I LIKE it. Not the sniffling, the forward compartment. I'm really thinking of building the Catspaw 9. I can carry it on my utility trailer to one of the near-by lakes on those rare breezy Spring and Summer days. Just to mess-about. We could maybe meet-up and mess together? Dinghy to dinghy. I WANNA GO BOAT-BOAT! ISN'T SUMMER EVER GONNA GET HERE?????
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    Core Sound 17 keel maintenance

    MUD! YUCK!!!! All I can say is "high top rubber boots!" Try to climb in leaving your feet hanging over the gunnel. Then pull the boots off and stuff them in a heave plastic bag until time to reload the boat. Easy to say, but harder to do. I hate that nasty, stinky, sticky mud all over the boat. Especially in the non-skid. We have red clay mud here in the Appalachian area. You could paint your house with it. Actually, the Indigenous people here used it to make paint for "body art" and petroglyphs. You can still find traces of it on rocks all around the south. How do you get the boat from the trailer down to the water? Do you back it down on the trailer? Sounds like you drop it from the trailer and drag it to the water. Those big blow-up rollers seem like a solution....maybe. I dunno. I avoid launching from muddy shores. I had enough of that growing up on Tampa Bay as a kid. Nothing like the smell of the mud flats at low tide on Old Tampa Bay.
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    unfolding my CS 20 MK3

    Seems like there was a distance given in the plans from the aft support of the cradle to the transom when I built Summer Breeze and Old codger. Or maybe Alan gave it to me in an e-mail.
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    Ocracoke 20 in OZ

    Foam is required here, too. I leave generous sized holes through the bulkheads that separate compartments, limber holes at the bottom corners, and at least one hatch open to the outside. A screw out plastic hatch is fine. It's also good to have a transom drain that any water can drain out of. I always keep my boats on trailers, so I can remove the transom drain plug and open the hatch(s). Anything to get air flow. The USCG requires "upright and level" flotation. Placing all of the foam spread across the bottom tends to make the boat unstable when it is flooded. It is prone to being capsizes in the waves. I built fiberglass boats for a living and had to have them tested to be sure that they complied with the flotation standards. I found that I needed to leave a section down the middle of the boat without flotation. There was plenty of room left on either side for the amount of foam required to meet the standards. A benefit of this was that it left the area most prone to water penetration free of foam that would otherwise block drainage and ventilation. It's also good to add foam under the deck to help with upright flotation if you have room for it. A book could be written on this subject, but I think this gets the idea across.
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    Utah OB20

    Some folks have great success with Kiltz. Some say latex based, some say oil. I tried the oil and didn't like it. Never tried latex. I would say to only use it under enamel or latex finish paints, not your expensive two-part poly. But, that's only my opinion. I have used Rustoleum marine, and I like it. It is on the deck of Old Codger. I just can't see spending a lot on small boats that are gonna get used hard. Unless they are built as show boats. For bigger boats, the poly is well worth the effort and price. (Do what I say, not what I do.) But, you can save a lot by buying industrial two part paint rather than marine. Correction. I got 'em mixed up. I used the latex Kiltz. Never tried the oil.
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    Utah OB20

    Carter, nice to know that I have a reader. This forum is a great place to hang out.
  25. Chick Ludwig

    Ocracoke 20 in OZ

    I like your ".. cut the edges in a corrugated pattern ..." From years of repairing fiberglass boats, I learned that moisture almost always manages to find a way under the floor. Poured in place foam traps the moisture where the foam eventually breaks down where it contacts the hull. The best way to prevent problems is to cut block foam to fit, Even better is with the edges "corrugated" as you've done. Then be sure the compartments are ventilated. Even sealed, empty compartments will allow moisture to somehow get in, but at least they don't trap it against the surface. Be sure to seal the backside of the floor (sole) thoroughly, too, before you install it.
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