Ok, it's not a sailboat...

[Stump]

A while back I mentioned about building a cruising type motorboat. I really like the workhorse, old-timey look (That is why I built a weekender) so I chose this design.

http://glen-l.com/designs/cruiser/bojest.html

I have just recently ordered the plans and am anxiously waiting their arrival.

I figure on putting the 20 X 10 foot shelter up in march and begin actual construction in april.

I know Glen-l has their own forum but I'd really rather stay with the people I trust.

[Ken_Potts]

That one looks like a lot of fun. I can't wait to see construction pics...

[wkisting]

Nice choice, Stump. Looks like a neat boat to build.

I wonder if it's named after the old movie "Beau Geste"? Good movie. If the boat is as entertaining as the movie, I'm sure you'll love it.

Wes

[kydocfrog]

That's pretty impressive!

DocA

[Barry Pyeatt]

There is one of those up in Port Townsend, cuter than all get out. Make a nice chase boat for photographing the Weekenders around here.

[Stump]

Here's a question for you guys, I heck, it's raining again, let's make it a poll. :roll:

[Stump]

Maybe not. Didn't there use to be a place for taking a poll? :?

I have the option of either making it an inboard or an outboard. I really like the idea of an inboard but I like the price of the outboard. Plus I just think it would look cooler. The inboard that is.

Opinions?

[Barry Pyeatt]

Personnally prefer the small Yanmar Diesels but they are a little pricey, but then so are most of the new outboards. I also prefer having diesel fuel aboard as compared to gasoline. Properly installed, the inboard will provide better fuel economy and lower noise levels for the most part if sound deadening materials are utilized well.

Installing and maintaining an inboard requires more effort and attention than an outboard though. And you can find a good used outboard much easier than a good used diesel for an inboard.

The 7" difference in draft between the two isn't really a factor. A little more interior space with the outboard configuration makes for more comfortable cruising and overnighting.

Option of adding and additional 18" to length would make sense if you plan on cruising the Sound with it.

The place to add a poll is at the bottom of the "Reply" page.

[Greg Luckett]

I like inboards when it fits the boat design, but outboards are a heck of a lot easier to work on. I often dream of a displacement type power cruiser with twin engines and screws. I do not trust a single engine anything. I want at least two means of propulsion....just my nutty way.

Like the http://www.glen-l.com/designs/cruiser/jollyroger.html but with two engines, or the http://www.glen-l.com/designs/cruiser/hercules.html with two outboards.

[Stump]

Barry.

That's the plan. I have a question though, wouldn't it be easier to put the 2 foot in by adding an extra station in the middle? That way I don't have to add that pesky 1 and 4/5ths everywhere. I really like the Yanmar one cylinder. You can had crank it if your batteries are dead to get a start. Puts out almost 10Hps.

Greg, I like the idea of at least a little fuel economy. Low hps. cruising boats. Hopefully I'll remember to bring some type of kicker get home motor. I really like the Deisel Duck 45 plus. 8) 8) Someday when I'm rich and famous I may buy a set of plans and make one. :shock:

http://dieselducks.com/index.html

That's the plan anyway. :roll:

[Greg Luckett]

Oh yeah!! I like the looks of that 462. Thanks.

http://dieselducks.com/Duck462study1.html

might be a better link.

[Barry Pyeatt]

Stump,

So, instead of adding an additional station which makes things too different in lofting it out, add 2" to each station line instead. Close enough and a lot easier to work with.

I had a couple small diesels in the past, all Perkins. Very reliable and pretty compact. But I would go with Yanmars now if I were doing them over. Also have a small kicker that I could hang over the backside on a bracket if needed. Here is where a nice 24 volt electric could make a difference in an emergency with a couple portable solar panels to keep the batteries charged.

[Greg Luckett]

Changing the station positions works a lot better than trying to add a station. The trick is to do them all the same. For instance if they are 24 inches apart on a 10 foot boat and you want to make it a twelve foot boat you would need to add 4.8 inches between each station, for a spacing of 28.8 inches, or something to this effect. Sometimes a slight adjustment is needed here and there to tweak it, but that is why full size lofting is good for on paper. There are limiting factors to adjusting the sizes too. I do not recall the recommendation but generally a power boat design can be changed more than a sailboat design.

[capt jake]

I have that plan bookmarked. It is a sweet little number. You might also want to look at the Hilda16. Simular, but different in a lot of respects. there is also teh Devlin Dipper. Neither are a 'tug', but they are ones I like as well. There is also the Devlin Godzilla 16 (he has one at his shop).

http://www.johnsboatstuff.com/Boat%20Designs/Hilda%2016/hilda_16.htm

http://www.devlinboat.com/dcdipper.htm

http://www.devlinboat.com/dcgodzilli.htm

I am not trying to confuse your decision, but there are several design features in each which you may be able to carry over to another.

[Steve Day]

Jake,

I really liked the Godzilli design when I first saw it some time ago. That would be a great boat for up in your (and Stump's) neck of the woods. I'm not sure it would fit in as well down in these parts. It is a pretty cool design for an old tugboater!

Stump it is your choice. I like the BoJest. She looks like a pretty cool design. I would do it with the inboard for those waters. The economy wins out for me.

Good luck and keep us posted on your project.

Steve

[Stump]

got the plans the other day. just a little different than the Weekender plans :shock: :wink:

ok, where is that free thumbnail generator? how do I resize my pictures? Why is the computer smarter than I am? :roll: :oops: I got a camera for x-mas and I thought i'd finally be able to post some pictures. this is all so complicated? Why can't I fix this problem with a hammer? :wink:

I am a man!!! here are the plans!!!!!! (About an hour after I started the reply :roll: :? )

[capt jake]

Sooooo, when are you going to start cutting pieces?? OH, yeah, when are you going to start on that new shed?

Still want to network that computer?

[Stump]

I can cut the frames and stem and stuff before I put up my "shed." My wife hates my "circus tent" that I build under so I'm going to delay putting it up as long as possible. I figure I'll start cutting the frames in April or so.

capt. jake, let me know what weekend you are going to be around and I'll collect my son-in-law and we will come down and take a look on your networking issue. 8)

I was discussing engine selection with swmbo and was informed that there was no reason for the discussion because I had already told her I wanted a diesel (which I do.) I told her about the cost and she stated that when has the cost of something I wanted ever stopped me from getting that something. ( which in a way is true...but only in a way...) :roll:

Still spending a lot of time going over and over the instructions. I tell you. I am very glad I built a Weekender first. The learning curve looks to be about the same as when I started the Weekender. Little more framing and a whole lot more engine and interior work. :wink:

[Phil]

So Stump on the one cylinder diesel. I used to work for a guy who had a 27' sailboat full keel, cutter rigged... heavy boat! It had one, an old one, like from the 60's very cool. 8) Chug...chug...chug awsome sound and feel. It started using the flywheel, but I was to stupid at the time to ask the details. I also have been on Mr. Whites' "Rescue Minor" which is started using a kick starter sim. to a motorcycle. So do they have a magneto? Where does the glow plug get the juice for pre-heating?

Phil

[capt jake]

Speaking of old diesels; a while back on another forum there was a descusion about one cylinder diesels. It turns out there is s manufacturer in Centralia! I can't recal the name but they made new replica engines, fully functional and the prices didn't see to unreasonable either.