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Terry Dunn

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  1. Hi Sean, I am in Aurora. Marine Plywood is a problem here. I ordered mine from Edensaw for my CS20. I used Doug Fir 2 by stock ripped for framing. There is a guy that bought the bleacher seats from Denver West high when the seats were redone. I used that for my CS20 gunwhale. Not cheap but nice wood. I would have used that for all the framing but I was pretty much done with the boat when discovered his wood. He might have some left. You probably only need one board for a spindrift. If you want to see an S10 that has never been faired or painted and a CS20 that has never been faired that has a clear urethane finish, send me a private message. Perhaps we can get together for a sail. I am not a craftsman at all but my boats do float.
  2. I have a spindrift 10. I have sailed in it with two adults but it is crowded. My s10 is fir plywood with fiberglass inside and out which makes it very heavy. I considered car topping but ended up buying a used trailer. The boat works great on the trailer. Very easy to launch and retrieve. I learned from my S10 building experience and built my CS 20 primarily in okoume. My S10 hasn't been in the water since I built my CS 20. Even when I go out by myself I take the CS 20. I need to break out the S10 this summer to get my granddaughter started sailing. Where are you located? I am at somewhat high altitude. I assume "High Altitude" means high altitude.
  3. I used US Composites on my s10 (2001) and System 3 and US Composites on my CS 20 (2002). No complaints. I used US Composites because it is much less expensive than other epoxies I found. I also bought fiberglass tape from them. I would use it again. I would check what Graham and Carla have first.
  4. Hi Matthew, Good to hear about your project. I did most of the cutting for my s10 and cs20 on my deck. My s10 went 3d on the floor of my garage and I set it on picnic table benches. Never did make any saw horses. Set the cs20 on the same picnic table benches. My wife and I ripped doug fir 2x4's for the 1x2 stock in both boats. We ripped 2x4's for the gunwhale on the s10, 3 pieces about 1/4" each. All using a portable table saw sitting on our picnic table on the deck. You make do with what you have. Both boats float! Enjoy the experience.
  5. It is was -7 overnight and 6 above now (2:00 pm) We have somebody elses snow. When are they going to come and get it?
  6. Joe, I have had 4 people in my spindrift 10 while rowing. Perhaps 4.5 because I think my daughter was expecting at the time. I need to qualify that none of us is very big and one was my grandaughter who was about 4 at the time. I fugure we were at about 450 lbs. Perhaps a bit more with the .5 person. The parks guys thought we had one too many in the boat. I thought it rowed just fine with the load. My grandaughter liked the S10 more then the CS 20 because she could reach the water over the side easier. My s10 is heavy. Fir plywood. Encapsulated in glass. I think it weighs over 130. I considered putting it in my CS 20 when we drug it to the PNW last year. But I did not consider it for long since it is heavy. We were only planning to go to places with docks to tie up to so I never did try to put my s10 in the CS 20 for transport. 20 years ago we rented a 30' sailboat and put 5 people in the plastic dinghy that came with it to row ashore. Our three children were much smaller then. Do you think it would be a bit of a challange to climb in and out of a dinghy from a CS 20? Seems like two tender platforms.
  7. Hi Joe, I have one rowing station on my CS 20 and I am considering adding another. Not that I need another but when I look at the Home Shipyard Raid I think: "If I win the lottery I could afford to try the raid". My goal would be to make it to every meal without a tow. That would probably require averaging 3 knots and going the right direction. Perhaps a bit faster. My oars are 9' spruce spoon blade oars. I moved my oarlocks further aft than where I thought the plans showed and made a removable seat that goes in front of the thwart. I also put a board in to brace my feet. Works OK. The mizzen mast is still in the way. It could be placed in the reefing position if there is no wind. That would be more hassel when the wind comes up. Rowing along at about two mph in still weather is not too strenous. Going faster is more work for me. About the fastest I have done is 4 mph for a short period. About 10 minutes at that speed would be about it for me. Rowing against a fresh breeze is real tough. Of course, If you have wind ... you sail. So, I am considering an additional rowing station between the mizzen and main with a jump seat over the centerboard. I think I will go for longer oars. Perhaps 9' 6" or 10'. Then I would need to talk one or more of my kids into the adventure. I think three would be a good crew size. After our trip to the NW last year my wife has already declined. She got cold. I suggested she would not get cold if she was rowing all of the time. She did not buy that suggestion. I think the Green Heron has two rowing stations. I think Graham said they generally used one oar each. Will ... back to reality. No amount of training would get my 60 year old body in good enough shape to row my CS 20 100 miles at 3.5 mph.
  8. I bought 12 sheets of okoume from Edensaw 4 years ago. They were shipped and I picked them up at the freight yard. I discovered they were two different sizes when I tried to put them in my minivan and some of the sheets did not fit between the wheel wells. I think Joe (CS 20 #35) used meranti.
  9. Hi Denny, Welcome to the world of first time builders. I built a Spindrift 10 out of cheap plywood as a practice boat. I learned not to use cheap plywood for my CS 20. The CS 20 went together real well. I second the value of the builders CD. My S 10 turned out OK but is heavy with fir plywood fiberglassed inside and out. I used her one summer and then built the CS 20. The S10 has not been in the water since. I built my CS20 in Colorado but bought my plywood from Edensaw and mast tubilne from Online Metals (Seattle). I assume you can pop over to Edensaw and pick up Okoume plywood. Good luck. Building boats is a great adventure.
  10. I built my CS 20 in a 20' 7" by 18' garage. I had it on casters so I could push it to one side and get the wife's minivan in. Most of the sawing was done on my deck so the garage size wasn't too llimiting. After all, I had 7" to spare once it was 3d. A small space can work if one is motivated. The closest thing to a non hand tool I have is an $80 portable table saw that I set on top of the picnic table. Jane and I ripped 2x doug fir for all of the non plywood parts. It is interesting where people have managed to build boats.
  11. Jeff, To combat spray, I sit just aft of the mizzen thwart and position my wife just forward of me. Works pretty good. For some reason we have not sailed as much this year.
  12. A guy that works at the Littleton, CO West Marine store bought the bleacher seats from Denver West HS when the gym was redone. 14' and 16' long by 8" and 9" wide by 1" thick (not 3/4). He had a bunch of it. I bought a piece from him and used it for my gunwales. Nice wood. Appears to be a mahogany from about 1938. Of course, you could tell me the wood is type a and I would'nt know the difference. It was nice to work with. Had I run into him sooner, I would have used it for all of my structural pieces whan I built my boat. It wasn't as cheap as the 2X doug fir I bought at Home Depot. I ripped Doug Fir into 1x2s for seat frames etc. I think they have more hemlock and less DF now. If you are interested I can probably dig up his name. It was three years ago I bought the piece but I saw the guy a few months ago and he said he still has some. There are bolt holes where they were bolted to bleachers any a bunch of coats of finish.
  13. Jeff, I bought 9' spoon blade spruce oars from a guy in Canada. I think it was Island Oars. They work good. I made some things to hang them under the side deck so they are out of the way but are handy when I need them. I chose 9' because that is the longest he could Fed Ex in a tube. Before I bought the 9' oars, I tried the 6 or 6 1/2 ' oars I use on my S10. OK for very short distances .. like 25 feet or so. I might take a shot at making some 10 footers. Regarding a motor. I have a 5 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu. It weighs in at almost 60 lbs but it works real well. We went 53 miles on less than three gallons on gas recently. It has taken three seasons to get the 10 hour break in period done. Terry
  14. Jeff, I find rowing my CS 20 to be easy when there is no wind and difficult when there is wind, unless that is the way I want to go. Most of our sailing is on a reservoir that does not allow motors. We have rowed across the lake a few times when the wind died. We rowed away from the dock recently at Deer Harbor on Orcas Island in the San Jauns and an onlooker commented the boat moves easily. There was no wind and I did not try to accelerate to my usual 2 mph too fast. My center board was stuck solid so we had the board up and did not even have the masts up. When the CB is a little stuck in Colorado, a bit more moisture on a trip to ND then WA tightened it right up. I left the lower section of the mizzen in to have something easy to grab when getting in and out of the boat. Worked pretty good. We looked a little funny. I find I need to be patient when I am rowing to a dock or my trailer and there is a contrary wind. I don't do a whole lot better with the motor in those situations. I managed to run into the bare metal corner of a dock in North Dakota hard. It poked a hole in my boat right below the gunwhale. Just a small hole.
  15. I have a CS 20 with 5 hp outboard. My GPS recorded 8.7 mph max between Anacortes and Friday Harbor and 10.1 max between Deer Harbor and Friday Harbor this past week. That is moving over ground in miles per hour. I did not pay any attention to the direction of the tide. I think 5 hp is plenty for the boat. I ran part throttle most of the time at 6 mph. I have not used the motor near as much as Rob has so his insight regarding potential hull issues is valuable. Terry
  16. Ken, When and where do you think you will be launching your Weekender? I would like to see the event. I am located in Aurora CO and sail on Aurora Reservoir in my Core Sound 20. I have seen a few other home builts there from time to time. Terry
  17. My wife and I are planning to spend a few days in Friday Harbor. We thought we would put our dingy (Core Sound 20) in at Anacortes and cruise to Friday Harbor. We plan to stay in a motel at Friday Harbor a few nights, assuming we can get reservations for a room and a slip to tie up the dingy (middle of July). We bare boated out of Friday Harbor about 18 years ago so this is not the first time we have been there. We have not made the trip form Anacortes. We could use some advice regarding where to put the dingy in the water in Anacortes. Any suggestions regarding the trip form Anacortes to Friday Harbor are welcome. Thanks, Terry
  18. Joe, We have had 6 people in our CS 20 a few times. She is solid as a rock with that many people. Jane and I were on the local reservoir the other day in some strong winds. We had the mizzen in the reefing position. We could have used a few more people that day. Actually we should have stayed on shore. After we got home we called into the recorded message for the wind conditions and it said "25 mph gusting to 47". We stayed in a small bay where there were no waves built up so we stayed upright fine. We have a 5 hp outboard on ours. We have used it at 9,000 ft here in Colorado. At that altitude it probably has less power that your 4. I thnk you will be pleased with the performance with a 4 even with the boat loaded. As it turns out We will be in the NW the week after the messabout. Bad planning. I would drag my boat to the NW if we culd make the messabout. maybe next year. Have a good time.
  19. Those should work well for you. After mine were on the baot a while I found I did not notice how ugly they are.
  20. I participated in a scout project to make snowshoes,. We heated sand to about 350 F and poured it into the PVC, placed the PVC in the mold and released the sand. You have to be quick. The PVC cools quickly. Worked real well. We made about 20 pair of snowshoes. We used a big burner and steel pots to heat the sand. Aluminum pots wioll melt. You need a steel funnel to get the sand into the PVC. Tap it as it is poured in. Welders gloves required so you don't get burned. We used 3/4" SCH 40 PVC. I am not sure how 1/2" would work.
  21. Looks good! You are making me feel lazy. At that point in the construction of my CS 20 I set it on some picnic table benches. I managed to overtighten my stiches in the bottom panels so my bottom is not as fair as it could be. There were a couple of small gaps that I should have left alone rather than sucking them in tight. Or perhaps some high spots I should have planed down. I won't do that on my next boat. Of course, I may not build a next boat because this one serves my needs so well.
  22. This method probably won't work for the bows you want but I thought I would mention it. When my boys were in Boy Scouts we made snow shoes with PVC frames. Some one had built a jig to put the hot PVC on. We heated sand to about 350 F in pots and poured the sand into the PVC. You have to have steel or cast iron pots and a big burner to get it done. We managed to burn a hole in one pot. Put the PVC in the jig and pour the sand out. Cools hardens and holds form.
  23. I watched the want adds in Denver for quite a while before I found a used Shorelander trailer. I bought it for $375 and put my 10 ft dinghy on a trailer suitable for a 16' runabout. Then I built my CS 20 and put it on the 1000 Lb rated Shorelander. Worked good. We were planning a 3,000 mile road trip and I did not like the idea of spinning 12" wheels 3,000 miles at highway speeds. I watched the want adds. Bid on ebay. I was about to buy a new trailer when I decided to call every dealer in Denver. Sterling Marine had three old trailers that would work. I bought a 1987 galvanized trailer for $200 and had to do very little modifications to accomodate my CS 20. Two shims in the bunks and I moved the winch. The trailer had a Bayliner 18 on it. The trailer has 14" wheels. Not so much spinning at 75 mph. The same bolt pattern as the 12" wheels on the little trailer. The downside is the bigger trailer weighs about 300 lbs more than the little trailer. I have a 600 lb boat of a trailer rated around 2500 lb capacity. The moral to the story is, if you haven't already, call around to the dealers in your area. They may have some trade ins with old junky boats that have good trailers. Good luck!
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