Scott Dunsworth Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 Peter I hope lead hasn't got that high here, the last that I had to purchase was 15cents a pound. Quote
Scott Dunsworth Posted March 13, 2011 Author Posted March 13, 2011 Graham got me some drawings last week and they where very good. We ended up with over 6 foot of head room around 4 feet of draft. After messing with the layout for a week my wife and I decided to add a bit more beam and two more feet of length. Graham did a beautiful job getting all of my requirements in a 25 foot plus hull. But we decided to add a little more room for a few more comforts. Its going to set in a slip anyway so whats a few more feet. My goal is to have a striped and glassed hull by winter. We'll see! I have been thinking about forgoing all the epoxy on the interior cabinets and everything that is not structural. Mainly for building ease. The hull and bulkheads inside and out will be epoxied or glassed though. The decks and dog house will all be foam corded. My brother is in Florida right now and they are fighting the wet condensation issue constantly. I'm going to do everything possible to minimise this stuff. When we get a finalized drawing on this 28 I'll have Graham post it. Scott Quote
Scott Dunsworth Posted March 23, 2011 Author Posted March 23, 2011 My brother is getting his boat registered in Florida. He said that if the boat is kept in Florida for over 90 days it has to be retitled and registered in Florida, then when returning to Kentucky would have to be registered back to Kentucky. He wasn't going to mess with the Florida registration but says he gets boarded and paper work checked often. He told me that if you have your boat US Coast Guard certified or Coast Guard registered, you don't have to do this. Also there are benefits sailing outside of the US to this certification ( Coast Guard registration ) but didn't know exactly what they were. Something about it makes the vessel US property out side the US. Can anyone help me here with information,pro's and con's? Scott Quote
hokeyhydro Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 got to this link for vessel documentation FAQ http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/nvdcfaq.asp#02 Boat must be 5 net tons or greater. This is not boat weight but NET tons calculated according to a formula (link on USCG FAQ page). A vessel more than 25' usually goes more'n 5 net tons. And the owner must be a U.S. citizen. Quote
Scott Dunsworth Posted March 25, 2011 Author Posted March 25, 2011 Thanks I'll checkout the link. Scott Quote
Scott Dunsworth Posted May 14, 2011 Author Posted May 14, 2011 Ordered my 8/4's cypress yesterday from my local wood supplier. So I need to get my shop ready. I have to finish a 10x 12 foot temporary extension on the building. Anyway realistically it will probably be a few more months before I can really get started. Scott Quote
ZecadeSousa Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 here is a new boat from roberto de barros yatch design.... http://www.yachtdesign.com.br/02_ingles/plans/pp25/desc41-2.html and a blog of the construction.... http://www.velerosirius.com.ar/horus/home-pt.html simple and confortable.... Quote
Gordy Hill Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Personally I don't like it very much Zeca. I don't like the slab sides and the flat bottom will pound. I generally like bilge keels, but I think they work better on a hull with a deeper V. The only real advantage to having a flat bottom, in my opinion, is the ability to operate in shallow water. This is given up with the fixed keel. I think the dual rudders are overkill on this size boat and are an unnecessary complication. The windows are nice. Quote
nzlance Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I dunno Gordy. It certainly has its good points. Alot of space for a twenty five foot boat , simple construction, twin keels are cheap and easy to build. The styling looks pretty edgy, I quite like it. plumb bow, windows , swimstep at back of cockpit. I thought the whole thing is really well thought out. You may be right about the flat bottom though...... in saying that you look at the hull of most racing yatchs now days they are practically a high tec wedge with mast and sails. Having a chine as the boat heels would this not act as the "v" and help slice through the waves? I know most sail boats are round bilge... and my knowledge of hull design is pretty limited but I cant help liking this boat. cheers. Lance. Quote
Tom Lathrop Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 On the layout there is a common misrepresentation that is often made. Note that the interior accommodation is shown extending all the way to the max beam of the hull. In practice this is only possible with a vertically slab sided boat and I doubt you want that. Having two double berths aft with the main hatch between will be hard to fit in 9' of beam. For sailing in warm climates, the quarter berths could get kind of stuffy and hot. Carrying all that beam aft might make for some interesting steering as the boat heels. The ballast/displacement ratio looks kind of low even assuming that all the ballast is in the keels. You might fit a couple small kids in that V berth. Quote
PAR Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 On the layout there is a common misrepresentation that is often made. Note that the interior accommodation is shown extending all the way to the max beam of the hull. In practice this is only possible with a vertically slab sided boat and I doubt you want that . . . Agreed and we see this all the time with folks that "have designed a boat . . .", but in this case the Pop 25 is vertical sided. This is bulkhead 3. and bulkhead 5 . . . Quote
nzlance Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Ok styling aside ......which is a matter of personal taste. What exactly is wrong with the design? Its pretty obvious the boat has vertical sides so the interior layout would actually work as drawn. One of these boats are being built at the moment and on the blog it looked just like the plan indicates. What gets me is the designer has spent many hours designing this thing from the ground up and it aint exactly the first yatch he has penned.......... surely he wouldnt expect the public to pay Aus $300.00 for a set of plans then thousands of dollars on materials not to mention the time taken to build the thing only to have a boat that handles and performs like a complete pig. Im simply fasinated by the design and interested to see what people who know about yatchs and the hull characteristics think about it. Quote
Gordy Hill Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 If bulkhead 5 had a V bottom the cabin floor would be lower giving more headroom inside and taking away a bit of volume under the bunks. There would be a bilge beneath the cabin floor for that little bit of slop that always comes aboard. As drawn, I'd be surprised if the floor weren't always wet. The bilge keels would be up on the higher part of the bottom, giving the same lateral resistance but requiring less water depth to operate in. The boat would be much more comfortable punching into heavy seas. It wouldn't be any more difficult to build a boat with a V bottom than the one drawn with two chines. I'm just guessing on this, but it appears that after a certain amount of listing the whole amount of righting moment would depend on the weight of the keels. It looks like the hull itself would be just as happy laying on it's side. I like the way the house sides lean in. Quote
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