capt jake Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 I have all 6 done. Luckily (as Barry points out) the veneers are very thin. At 15 plies for 3/4" stock, it'll be pletny strong. And yes, the gouges don't like the change in 'perspective' of the grain. I have given them a good pull between by arms and only felt a light flex. A lot of sanding is in order, but I should be finished enough for varnish in about 1 1/2 hours tommorrow. Quote
Guest Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Thats the current round stern. I showed the previous bow shot as a way to compare. I gained 14 inches foward of mast thwart. Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Barry, I knew as soon as you pointed out that the grain would be wrong, that I was thinking of the rings rather than the grain. Thanks. I had a feeling in the back of my mind that my logic was flawed. Greg. Quote
capt jake Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 A revalation as I was geting ready for bed last night; I would probably be better off with Linseed Oil instead of varnish. thoughts? Quote
P Doug (WA) Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 But why are some of the little face emoticons gray instead of yellow? Or, have they always been that way? :roll: :wink: Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 But why are some of the little face emoticons gray instead of yellow? Or' date=' have they always been that way? :roll: :wink:[/quote']Eh? I am not seeing gray ones at all. Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Using linseed oil instead of varnish accomplishes a couple things that are advantageous. The process is to heat both the wood and the linseed oil. Heating the wood first causes off gassing which opens up the grain of the wood and allows moisture to escape in the form of off gassing. Then as it cools down it draws in the hot linseed oil to replace the off gassed moisture. Granted there isn't much in the plywood layers but there is a lot of exposed endgrain due to the turning. Rather than just sealing off the ends of the wood fibers with a surface coating (Varnish) the hot linseed oil is actually drawn into the wood fibers and when it drys it makes the wood harder, stronger and less prone to damage from any elements. AFter it has dried completely, (several days) it can be buffed off and varnished if you want a surface coating or finish. But the linseed oil is a finish on its own. This is a very traditional, old method of finishing wood and protecting it from the elements. And it works. Not as high teck or sophisticated as epoxy or new urethanes, but has good UV characteristics and isn't prone to give way with heat applied to it as epoxy does. Doesn't need to be removed and recoated as Varnish does. Just wipe on an additional coat occasionally and it is good to go. Good hard wearing finish. Many modern wood finishers use linseed oil mixed with tung oil and urethane for a really nice finish on furniture that is durable and easy to maintain. So it should work well on things marine that are finished out as well as funiture. :wink: Quote
Frank Hagan Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Greg' date='Frank tried making some from wood edge tape, don't think they held up or were thick enough. Right concept but wrong material. [/quote'] I tried the wood edge tape with the iron-on adhesive ... its way too soft. The hoops looked great, but after the first couple of sailings they deformed. I think it would work to use thin laminate and epoxy ... but you would have to build a form out of some plastic material that the epoxy wouldn't stick to. Quote
capt jake Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 I used Linseed oil. I didn't heat it as I couldn't swindel a pot from the Chief Financial Officer. I have heat on it in the shop and intend upon keeping it 'wet' all day to promote absorbtion. Frank, I have also read of individuals using the same tape, but adhering it with epoxy (as you mentioned). But considering the amount of tape that would be needed to build up a satisfactory thickness, I opted for this route, it was cheaper also. Quote
capt jake Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 Sun? You have Sun? Nice shot, even if you are bored! Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 You guys are boring me to sleep here. Your eyelids are getting heavy.....you are feeling sleepy....you are asleep but you can hear me.....winter is not here......when I snap my finger you will wake you will believe it is summer....you will not see the snow.....you will not feel the cold....you will hunt for sun tan lotion...you will want to wear shorts and go barefooted.....you might freeze but you will feel hot..... Quote
Guest Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Okay, now that I am awake, I see that there has been a couple of replies. Not only did I have to endure the sun, I had to deal with a reallllllllly blue sky, white sandy beaches and mamma making lunch on the beach. Sorry those shots are all x-rated. :wink: We have a saying in our area when times are just unbearable and life is a b-----h, you know the expression. Well we call it being "Momicked" Yes I was..... Click on the shots if you wish to see a lot more sun, blue skies and white sandy beaches. :twisted: Quote
capt jake Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 Ya know, if you keep this up all winter, it could get really annoying. LOL Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Ya know' date=' if you keep this up all winter, it could get really annoying. LOL[/quote']DITTO! :roll: Quote
Craig Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 GregI just talked to my Mother in Muskegon and she says the weather is just fine. No snow, cold, nor ice in the nursing home! Can't imagine what's wrong with you. I launched at 1000 and sailed to 1530, wind light 10-12 all afternoon, changing from SSE to SW at 1430. No chop on the bay with temps in the mid seventys. I did have to wear a long sleved sweat shirt over my Build your Dream club T-shirt with my shorts though. The sandwiches were excellent and the beer cold as, well, SW Michigan in November. Tastey! Now the other side of the coin is I can't go iceboating nor ice racing motorcycles anymore so it all evens out. Tell yourself "Spring is just around the corner", "I must finish my boat building tasks." "Spring is almost here." Hell the TV is full ov Christmas adds so winter must be nearly over, Ask me why I left Michigan Greg. Quote
tdrown Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Still sailing. I was about to take the Weekender out for the second time this year two weeks ago. It was a lot of fun to actually sail with wind. Except for the small issue with weatherhelm and rudder failure that required me to steer with my leg off the transome and my foot pressing against the rudder to keep it straight (there was some slack in the line that I apparently didn't take care of). I want to go out at least another time before I finally call it a season. Quote
Guest Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Someone say something about the winner? Did I hit the lottery while I was out spending part of my other winnings of life's lottery? Quote
adla Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 it was hot here.... i went throug a gallon of water this afternoon just doing projects for friends. oYstErs....nice boatsie!! reaL niCe...sure is pretty Craig - sounds like you finally made it away from work and out on the boat! i envy that! Greg- don't pay no mind to that sunshine - it is all smoke and mirrors. JaKE - were your hoops made with cable and swagged - seems like it would take a great deal of force to break the ones i have....i thought about wood mast hoops originally - but i have a list of 'must do's' ahead of anything else right now...including a boom modification that i am just about done with. a. Quote
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