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Ok, I had a real long boring story about keels and skegs and how much I liked them on a kayak I made but I lost it so I'll cut to the chase. Keels allow you to rest between strokes, unless you plan on taking your boat in white water I would always have a keel. No keel allows you to turn on a dime, I've never had to turn on a dime. Skegs protect the bottom of your boat. I like them both on my kayak. I mainly paddle on flat water. I followed the bottom curve of my boat with the keel (2x2) and then planed down the fore and aft sections to make a nice line into the stem and stern. The skegs (1x1's) I just angled the front end to it wouldn't catch on anything

Actually Frank, that makes me feel GREAT!!! Today I put in the center seat just forwared of the frame piece and made a kick up rudder with a liftable tiller. Stole the lines off my Weekender and just lightened it up some, 1/4 inch eyebolts, 1/2 inch ply for the rudder itself, 1/4 inch side pieces and used standard "one inch" for the spacers, worked real well. Tiller is a 2x2 with 1x2 "jaws" attatched to the box with a 1/4 inch bolt to pivot up and down. Got a camera, now I have to figure out how to use it :roll:

I hate to say it Alexander but Frank is right. It is a very strange world today. Talk to your parents about computer boards, All are not as friendly as this great place is. And even here, you just never know who might "drop in."

Looking at the slight curve of my keel (I swear, looking at it from above it's straight. It's only when you get down and kind of look along it that it appears to have a slight "v" shape :oops: ) I might not even have to do anything to get a boom-a-rang effect! :shock: :wink:

Still trying to get my hands on a camera... anyway, got mast partner and front deck framing put together, along with rear seat. still have to get the middle seat in. Took longer to paint than I thought, I had to let the 5200 skim over :roll: got one coat of paint on inside and out, looks like I'm going to need a couple more. Trying to get all exterior parts with at least one coat today, (still have rub rails, chines, and stem to paint,) due to threat of rain.

Nice, I keep looking at that boat and thinking, maybe someday. Keep us informed about how the process is coming.

Look here, http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html#anchor209193 Cool little boat!!!! Best part is that the plans are FREE!!!!!! (just turn away Mike, turn away )

Excellent :!: 8) 8) How big is big :?: Are you worried about catching something so big that it pulls the boat right over? :shock: Do you have any counter balance or do you think that the boat is stable enough as it is? Let us know how it works :!: :!:

yea, ummm, I'm going to have to borrow a camera.

I know, this is NOT going to be the boat I finish with, it is only to get started. I just had to use some of that wood...it was killing me! Went with the outside chine, that worked well, problems with the stem, never did get it really straight, I can't tell if it is the 1/4 ply or my workmanship, I'm leaning towards workmenship. I tend to get on a roll and proceed at a faster pace than I should. Mounted a 2x2 for the keel and also have 2 skegs(?) on either side. The boat has a nice rocker and seems to be level side to side. Oyster, I think some of the problem I had at the bow was lack of frames, when I actually make a better boat I'll definitely use more of a frame work to keep everything true, it was interesting to see the different stresses put on various parts and different times of the building. I really think that the stem needs to be solidly attached to keep the bow true, not cut in place like I did. OK, so, I've just flipped the boat right side up to finish attaching the keel and skegs, and I'll deck it and get the mast partner in this afternoon. I'll paint this evening and if it dries overnight throw it into the water tomorrow. Wow, talk about slamming together a boat. btw, couldn't find the sign piece so I guess I'll go with leeboards. I need a pair right? This little skiff should be fine throwing into the back of my truck and taking down to the local lakes to play with. I'm thinking of using a lug rig with this boat.

Ok, no one has written over here for a while so I will. As I mentioned on the main form I came into a whole bunch of old lumber and after unloading it I wanted to build something with it. I thought, how about another boat, a flat bottomed skiff shouldn't be too hard. Looked through the plans I've downloaded from the web and decided to follow the general idea of the DH boat. http://www.mcallen.lib.tx.us/staff/gm/dhboat1.htm Plywood with a single center frame. Option of either and internal or an external chine. I'm leaning towards the internal and I'm not sure why. Maybe because that is the way I did it on the Weekender. So, Cut out the sides and butt jointed them together. Used 1 by 6 pieces instead of plywood. found my first mistake, butt jointed them the same so, I just recut the bow and stern pieces and the boat is a little shorter by about 10 inches now. Got the sides put together and will do the bottom tomorrow. Still not sure about the chines. I'm planing on making a dagger board instead of the leeboards on the plans, I have a 3' x 18" piece of sign metal that I don't think will flex too much for the dagger, not sure how it will work though. I did widen the transom 5" at the bottom and 10" at the top. I am also going to deck the front to just behond the mast partner and the back 12" or so at the transom, packing that area with floation material. Ideas? :?

Perfect!! Thanks, ya' cleared up a lot of questions I had

I think the worst thing is that I already am going to start another boat and I haven't even finished the first one yet. I figure that while I'm waiting for something to dry on one I can work on the other...I'm lying...I have a monkey on my back and I can't get it off. I thought, sure, build a boat, no big deal...but I don't care!!! Hee hee...I'm not ready for a twelve step program yet!!!!!! Plywood or plank? hummm?

Oyster, Did you have any problems with the lapstrake? What method did you use to get the lines? How much sanding did you have to do? And, did you do it on the boat or at the bench? I'm also betting that you built it the traditoinal way, on a strong back? I was reading about different types of planking and the author stated that lapstrake wasn't that hard, just time consuming. Did you figure out how to do it yourself or have you seen it done before? The reason I'm asking is my neighbor was going to throw out a bunch or old lumber he had stored in his yard sooo, I grabbed it, lots of usable 1by, 2by and 3by. Thought of your skiff and well... you get the picture, I get the feeling that my Weekender is going to have a tender too.

None of us do. If we did, we wouldn't even attempt it! I mean really, building a boat? Who do you think you are? Noah? Ya' buy boats, ya' don't build 'um yerself :wink:

By the by, nice looking work so far How many clamps did you have to come up with to keep it all together?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I've only read about stitch and glue, never actually done any, but if the curve is fair and your happy with the line I was under the impression that up to a 1/2 inch max gap was ok to fill. Yes? No? Comments? :?

That is totally cool!!!!! "That's my stapler..."

Great Video 8) Once I got the drool off my keyboard I watched it again, very, very nice and lots of fun. btw, audio worked fine on my computer.

Cannon, a 3 pounder...on a slide to go under the boom and then swivel in the direction you want...probably have to reinforce part of the cabin roof though... anybody asks, claim it was a cleat... :twisted:

That is a great shot!!! 8) 8) 8)

Oyster et el - Just play'en, I actually am jealous of the way you and so many of the folks here are actual woodworkers, as opposed to a builder like me. You all are true artists. Sometimes my attempts at humor are hard to figure out :roll: peace

"The honeydos meant the folks, with list of projects in hand, that go down to the big orange stores and look for the absolutely perfectly straight pieces, paying full prices for such, with their wives, and with project book in hand, and then go home and cut up the perfectly straight and clean boards up into pieces, nailing them together, and painting them all pretty while the wife is impressed with such admiration.. " yup, we sure do, then we sit back and have a beer, while ya' all are still trying to find that just right piece of wood in your huge stack that ya had to build its own building for, so you can even START the project. Whilst said wife rubs our back cause we did such a good job :wink:

ahh, those were the days... :? a smipler, less complicated time... :roll: Tricky Dick and the plummers...deep throat and the domino effect...sigh, sniff...the big lie...the list is endless... :shock: 'course, I wasn't building a boat then...