Woodenboat #210

[John Burritt]

The latest issue of Woodenboat mag. #210 has a good article about Graham/B & B Yacht Designs/and many of his boats - including pictures of his canoes, kayaks, cats paws, spindrifts, lapwing, core sounds, princess 22, EC 22, 18' launch & Okracoke 20 (20' center console).  Pictures were shot last spring at Graham's shop on one of the few days the wind wasn't blowing, much to the frustration of the sailboaters.

[Greg Luckett]

I would love to read it, had my copy arrived as it was suppose to, on 8/4, but it did not.  Now Wooden Boat has no copies to send me its replacement. #210 is the Sept/Oct edition, which is the last one on my current subscription. My new subscription, paid via Visa online, is not showing on their system, though they have my money to spend now, and the rep. says it can take up to 60 days to be posted.  I told them this is the 21st century and that stinks.

I think I am going to go sand on the tiller some more, grrrrrrrrr! :mad:

[Tom Lathrop]

Greg,  mine came today and being even further in the sticks than me, Graham does not have his yet.  Woodenboat had two chances to spell my name this year and they missed both times.  This is an all time screw up,  Layton, how could they get that out of Lathrop.  The first time it was only Lathrup.  Is my name that difficult?

Anyway, it is an excellent article and lots of recognition for Graham.  One very interesting part is a long overdue realization that there may be some good boats other than those built with pointy ends of timber and linseed oil.

[Greg Luckett]

Well then. Maybe WB is full of BS about the 8/4 delivery, and that is actually when they mailed it?  It may show up any day now then.  Fingers are crossed.

[Oyster]

Tom, forgive them, really..   You do realize that those guys hang around their forum a lot more these days where creative speeling and adlibs! are the norm these days! :-P 8-)

[John Burritt]

Even if Tom can't speel his name write, he still builds a good looking boat.

[Craig]

Greg, mine is always late too.  It is such a long trip up from the valley I guess. (~8 miles)

[Doug Cameron]

Mine didn't arrive until today.

Doug Cameron

[sscoville]

What does the author mean by "folded-plywood?"  And how about this Miss Stephie?  I'd like to see more of her.

[John Burritt]

Miss Stephie is an 18' runabout w/ a 5'9" beam.  Draws 8" w/ engine up - 20" down.  Powered by a 15 hp Honda 4-stroke in the aft compartment.  Graham designed her for me about 10 yrs ago - build finished in 2002.  Started in our community college boatbuilding class - finished at home.  Bottom is a low-deadrise planing surface for about the last 2/3 of the length.  Lifts smoothly up on plane at @ 5-6 kts.  Tops out about 15 kts. w/ one person on board.  Easy cruise w/ 2-4 people around 10-11 knots.  The same engine today is a 20 hp.  The extra would be great, but can't justify a new engine.  We thought about a 25, but the added size & weight would have been disasterous to the stern lines & trim.  The pic in the mag. is about as good as I've got.  We're running about 1/2 throttle making a gradual turn to port.  That's Graham's wife, Carla, and their grandson on board w/ me.

[sscoville]

Well she looks very nice.

[bfeller]

I can't wait for my next issue. 

[Greg Luckett]

My copy showed up today....WHOOPEE! :grin:

[bfeller]

My copy hasn't showed up yet.  I went to Barnes and Nobles and bought one.  Great article.  Great picture of both Graham and Carla.  

[John Turpin]

A very nice article. Long overdue.

[Dale Niemann]

I agree with John.  A great article and LONG overdue.

Congradulations, Graham.

Dale

[Guest Dennis M]

I bought the issue and read the article. Is there really as much snobbery toward plywood boats as suggested in Tom's post above and the author of the article?

[Greg Luckett]

I wondered about that too, but then thinking of all the advertising for boat schools from that area, the focus is on lapstrake. It probably stems from the fact that if you are trained and skilled enough to do lapstrake, then you will be skilled enough to handle the less demanding designs, such as stitch & glue. That being said, assuming a person has spent the time and money for that training, how many of them build more boats afterwards, and if so, how many boats do they build for themselves. My guess is they might build one or two, and those would be the kind of designs they were trained on. IMHO lapstrake is pretty but a PITA to build.  I do like several of the Atkin's designs and may build one or two just to keep my skills up. Another thought is that Graham's designs are mostly a hard chined type whereas the lapstrakes are rounded, soft chines.

Graham might want to elaborate on why he made those comments in the article, and I trust he knows what he is talking about. Every time I speak with him, I learn something new.  I am envious of his students.

[Guest Dennis M]

Greg, I will be taking a boatbuilding class from a fellow in South Haven this fall. We will build a plywood lapstrake sailing dinghy -- the perfect project to acquire the skills for building my next boat. All the boats I have built to this point are s&g, so I want to expand my horizons and skill sets a bit. I may only build a couple of boats after this as it is an expensive hobby and the boss thinks she has better things to do with our hard earned cash. I may continue to build, of course, until I find the "perfect" boat. So, if you hear any howls of pain from the north -- that is me taking my licks from the boss who wields a pretty wicked iron skillet.

[Greg Luckett]

Dennis, that would be with Mike Krieger? I got some very excellent training from Mike, but instead of the sailing boat we were suppose to build, it was a lobster boat. The project was a lot bigger and more time consuming and I never got to see the boat finished, though the build weeks were doubled. The important thing I wanted to learn was the lofting and lapstrake, and was able to do that.  You will learn a lot from Mike. I wish I had more time and money to get some more training from him.