Whats a guy to do....

[Guest]

when someone says I got a free wooden mast and boom, 27 foot in length, boxed built, with a tabenacle rigigng, hardware included and I knew you had some extra wood in the back of your shed waiting for the room inside to be shaped into a 28 to 30 boat, and may need a mast for it. He also said a chain saw was sitting next to it, if I didn't show up in the next day or so.....

So now what do I build????

[Stump]

I don't know but I would be running for that mast. 8) Figure out what to build with it later. Maybe some type of low cabined sharpy type for overnighting? :wink:

[Guest]

I don't know but I would be running for that mast. 8) Figure out what to build with it later. Maybe some type of low cabined sharpy type for overnighting? :wink:

Yep, the next step from the phone was to empty the big trailer and hook up, and up, up, and away I went, and ended up back before supper time. Kinda like Santa Claus I guess......

[Craig]

Step 1: Get mast/complete

Step 2: Select design for the mast holder/ In progress

Step 3 Build mast holder/Pending Critical Design Review

Step 4: Sail and enjoy mast holder and mast/ Date TBD

There you are Mike. A fully completed plan. Glad to be of service. 8)

[Guest]

I must tell you thanks in open forum, Craig. :oops: I should have known that all along, but some days I guess a person can't see the forrest for the trees. But I may have to cut the existing structure in half and extend it, to make that size mast work for the on going project. Think what would be said about the nutcase that would do such a thing, given the past comments on this out of control individual. Probably would have to create a new website to hold all of those opinions and constructive comments, you know.

[Craig]

You'd just hose it up with heartwood anyway.

Some days I just wonder about me! I can't seem to read a date anymore. I just started wearing my hearing aids again and all the noise is making me agitated I guess. At least wise more than usual.

Sat night Saralee and I were going to a party and as we were backing out of the garage she says "Do you have your seat belt on?" and I replied "Yes I have my teeth in, why?" Time to start wearing these damned things again. I made an appointment for the VA to adjust them in Jan. And these are supposed to be the golden years. I'm not even 60 yet!!!!!!

Save the mast, build another boat! Can;t have too many you know.

[Charlie Jones]

Verrrrrry interesting!!! Looks JUST like the mast and hardware for my Rhodes Meridian. Got some closer pics of the hardware, particularly the spreader bases and mast head fittings?

[Frank Hagan]

when someone says I got a free wooden mast and boom' date=' 27 foot in length, boxed built, with a tabenacle rigigng, hardware included and I knew you had some extra wood in the back of your shed waiting for the room inside to be shaped into a 28 to 30 boat, and may need a mast for it. He also said a chain saw was sitting next to it, if I didn't show up in the next day or so.....

So now what do I build????[/quote']

A sailboat!

[PAR]

A quick guide for sizing your boat around this mast is to multiply the boom length by the mainsail hoist (gooseneck to a few inches below the masthead sheave). This will provide a rough sail area (masthead sloop) or knock off 10 - 20% for a fractional sloop. Another way is to size your LWL to the hoist. Most conventional sloops have a hoist about the same as the LWL (within 10% or so). Given a 3' bury to the mast step, your looking for a 22' to 26' LWL boat. A tall rig on a 24' stable hull form, or a conservative sail plan on a 28' to 30'er that is initially tender.

[Charlie Jones]

my Meridian carries a wooden 28 foot mast, deck stepped, on a LOA of 24 feet, 9 inches.My waterline (LWL) is 17'9". Boom length is about 11 feet. Main sail is 136 square feet, with a hoist of 26'10.

So SOME boats don't fit your measurments cause you forgot to divide by two

If you DO divide by 2, it's almost dead on.

[Guest]

The rig came off of a S&S 22 footer, if I remember correctly. The boom sail track is 10'8". The mast sail track is 22'. It came and was rigged with the folding tabernacle. I saw the boat and yes it did have a cabin. He replaced it with an aluminum mast.

Hey Frank or anyone else, got any odd ball or cute designs that you can think of that you have always wanted to build, but could find the right mast for? My biggest thing with sailboats, is the appearance of a sloop rigged hull is boring, IMHO. So lets be creative here. I guess I could jazz it up a bit and do something on the order of..... But I would need to do a new boom and some ballast, which restricts a lot of things for my area and some requirements to be trailable. Acess to the water has been restricted in our area, and for moorings and readily access to a boat on a mooring with dinghy dockages and beaching.

[Ken_Potts]

In order to further muddle the math I'll toss this in: I used to have a 15' proa with a 27' mast. The mast was keel-stepped but about 25' was above the deck. It was an un-stayed, loose-footed, bermudan cat rig.

Maybe you could use your new mast as the mizzen on the world's biggest sharpie-yawl.

[Guest]

In order to further muddle the math I'll toss this in: I used to have a 15' proa with a 27' mast. The mast was keel-stepped but about 25' was above the deck. It was an un-stayed' date=' loose-footed, bermudan cat rig.

Maybe you could use your new mast as the mizzen on the world's biggest sharpie-yawl. [/quote']

Only if you will sail it for me in that force five, with the appropiate main mast. In all seriousness, I do plan on building another hull, but first must finish present project, and a new custom runabout, and attend two elbow bending and sailing regattas in warm climates in my spare time. So many boats and so much surplus wood, and so little time left to find that idea boat hull.

[Ken_Potts]

Only if you will sail it for me in that force five, with the appropiate main mast.

Sounds good - I'll bring a couple of handkerchiefs to tie onto the masts... :shock:

The one real down side of being in the middle of building a boat is thinking about future projects. If I didn't watch myself I'd have 5 or 6 unfinished hulls sitting around and I'd never finish any of them I need to replace my kayak and I'd like a little sidewheeler houseboat that could take me to Montana to see my friends and of course I'd like to cross an ocean some day so I could use a nice sturdy keelboat and I think it would be really cool to have a kite-powered hydrofoiler and then there's the...

[PAR]

Charlie, you're correct that dividing by two approximates the mainsail area, but I was looking for total area, including the fore triangle. The guides above are very generalized. Boats that have healthy overhangs bow and stern (like your boat), beamy boats, narrow/deep boats, can be well outside the guide. What's the total area of your main and fore triangle? Is it around 270 (+ or - 15%)?

Oyster, that stick should carry about 120 sq. ft. in mainsail (normal roach) and a total of around 240, for an average proportioned masthead sloop. How about cutting it down a little and building a ketch, that's still reasonably trailerable. Maybe a cat ketch on a traditional sharpie hull, like the one in WoodenBoat an issue or two ago, by Howard Chapelle. That boat is one of my favorites, carries 230 sq. ft. on two sticks, draws 7" board up, about 6' beam and they're fast man. Very few 24' boats will keep up with you, lest they be racers. The best part is you're the ballast and they are quite elegant and cheap to build.

[Guest]

The Chapell hull is a flat bottom, I think? They did two articles way back, but I will check out the ones from this last year. Here is a New Haven Sharpie with a neat rig but I need sleeping and dining in my next one but it will still need to fit on a trailer and still have a skipjack vee bottom.

[Dave Fleming]

Holey Moley, will ya look at the size of that centerboard trunk in the New Haven Sharpie photo that 'eyrster' posted?!?!

[Stump]

I thought it was carring cargo :shock: :shock:

[Charlie Jones]

251 sq feet with working jib, which is pretty much 100% or close to it anyway.

I wasn't disagreeing with you by the way- just poking a bit.

[john bowen]

Yup, permanent cargo 8)

(I know, I'm working on that picture thing. :? )