Aaron Posted May 30, 2004 Posted May 30, 2004 Anyone try this rig on a weekender?[/img] [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
Tom Holder Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 Interestingly, I found this boat the other day after following a link mentioned elsewhere in the forum. You could adapt the sail plan I imagine. It would be a handful to sail I bet but it would look waaaaaay cool. http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz./plans/swiftsure/index.htm Quote
tdrown Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 That might be too drastic a change in the sail plan for the Weekender. I really think the mast also would need to made significantly taller to add two square sails. Adding an inner jib, outer jib, and foresail to the plan is certainly posible and easily doable. A square sail would require a crewmember to climb the (taller) mast via ratlines or a ladder and I'm not certain that the Weekender is stable enough for a taller mast with people in it. The center of gravity would just be too high for an unbalasted boat. You could maybe try one square sail but I would also be weary of that. Quote
Aaron Posted June 1, 2004 Author Posted June 1, 2004 I am sure you are probably right about it not working with a weekender. It does look extremely cool though. BUT what if one scaled down the size of the sails to fit the current height of the mast or only a slight height addition to the weekender mast. Do you think it would like right? Quote
Frank Hagan Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 There is a "Pirate Festival" they hold here at a local lake each year, and there is usually a scaled down square rigger that is about the size of a Weekender ... perhaps bigger, like a Vacationer. Its interesting looking, but not at all serious. There's a problem with scaling down something so grand on a ... well, GRAND scale. In the smaller proportions it just looks silly. I may go back this year and challenge him to a race. A cutter rig might look good on a Weekender, though. Two headsails. But not much more than that. I think even a top sail would be too much for the scale of our boats (besides which, it would be the size of a handkerchief). Quote
Tom Holder Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Interestingly' date=' I found this boat the other day after following a link mentioned elsewhere in the forum. You could adapt the sail plan I imagine. It would be a handful to sail I bet but it would look waaaaaay cool.[url']http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz./plans/swiftsure/index.htm[/url] This SwiftSure boat is only a 17 footer with a single square topsail. I have searched the web however and have not found any references to any that have been built. One of you rich guys buy the plans so we can all look at it Quote
Mark Hughes Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Actually, a square topsail will be the next step for my Vacationer in the evolution towards a Brigantine rig. I'll be launching her as a cutter, hopefully before the end of June, and will get used to handling her in that configuration. Then start adding sticks and string to play with as I go along. Quote
Bruce S Kershaw Posted June 2, 2004 Posted June 2, 2004 The SWIFTSURE plans could be the basis of the "pirate ship" I've always wanted! :shock: ...but I'm not starting another project that I'll never finish. :oops: :roll: :? Quote
rolandblais Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 I like that Swiftshure... I can probably talk the admiral into that then the Privateer... http://www.celtfilm.com/privateer.html Both shore are purty.... Quote
Stump Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 Purty eyeh...yet crewed by giants I be thinkin :shock: Must be tough sleepin' in the cap'ts. cabin :wink: Quote
rdbass Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 Maybe not this rig but on my weekender Mezz'acqua i put a masthead and a topsail: see it on "my gallery" ! Bye Roberto Quote
Aaron Posted June 17, 2004 Author Posted June 17, 2004 I emailed the address at that privateer website and got some undeliveralbe message error. Too bad it looks really cool. Quote
kydocfrog Posted September 9, 2004 Posted September 9, 2004 Sam Rabl's book, Boat Building in Your Own Backyard, a real classic, includes a picture of one of his small tabloid cruisers -- the design escapes me -- flying small square tops'l referred to as a "Captain's Handkerchief." Way cool. The Swiftsure design noted in a post above does include a reference to the bowsprit being "housed." That normally means that the extension (proably a better nautical term for that), shown on the illustration, slides back in some sort of brace and irons arrangement. That would be an interesting variation to lengthen the WE bowsprit for cutter rig to allow for choice of rig and avoid a permanent change to overall length for trailer, etc. That's an interesting variation of a fairly deep forefoot running to a deeper keel in the aft end... KyDocFrog Quote
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