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Excellent stuff Adla!! brilliant! Looks like you and the hoonberry had a ball... sure lookin trim taut an terrific :cool: Oh an the boat looks great too! Mind you its good to put face to name too flamin bonus time!! :cool:

Gidday Steve I did a price run the other week for marine ply and mate the prices scared the beegeeezuz outta me! 1/4in ranged from $99 to $140 per sheet 1/2in ranged from 120 to 180 per sheet 3/4in blew the bank starting at 240 per sheet it increased increadibly from that point on... me ol ticker couldnt handle it!!... the so called "marine" ply I wouldnt use on a dog kennel holes tears voids out the wazoo... simply put it was crap and the construction grade stuff was worse Timbers not really a prob as Ive got a fair bit already and what I havent got I can get at a reasonable price I priced a 14ft canoe awhile back at around 500-600 for ply epoxy and glass... in timber it came in around $200-300... add another $80 if buying the timber strips... still have to get the epoxy and glass but thats altogether not to bad it was the ply that shot the idea out the gate As for a larger boat build forget it... One can buy it ex east coast from boatcraft pacific cheeper than here in WA buying in bulk didnt make any difference in price here whereas over there it did I have been told recently that Sorrensons are Boatcrafts WA agent so will be getting onto them to see if they compare with the ex east coast price delivered that Ive recieved from them I looked into the costs of materials for the Mike Waller trailer cat a year back and their price was 8000 for ply timbers epoxy and glass and another 7 for the other bits associated delivered to my door... went and priced the same quoted amounts here and FREAKED!! $13000 thank you very much and I would have to pick it up in Perth!... Her highness shook her head and muttered somethin about stupid drongo husbands who want to become celibate uniks! needless to say it went down the gurgler in a rush... and I remain uncelibate and nonunik!! :twisted: I had thought of getting prices for Iain Oughtreds Grey Seal but after that episode I had a wee pang fear and didnt bother... I havent worked out how many sheets or sizes are needed for a Weekender or Vacationer but well... we will see so many choices eh Maybe I dont have the contacts needed to get a good price on the stuff... but mate I dont have the gronicles to face up to her highness with a bill for near on a grand for just the ply for a wee canoe or boat!!! she may be tiny but mate uhuh no way!!... Thats the price one pays for living in West Aussie :roll: good timber shite ply... reasonable price solid timber high price ply... amazing eh! If someone over here has some contact within the ply industry and can get it at a better price than Ive been able to find please let me know!! Once the move is over and weve relocated down to Brunswick I will revisit the whole ply verses timber issue having made some pretty good contacts in the timber mills down there and then decide from there

WOW~!! Aweflamin boat there! Upside down keel facing the surface... wow submarine time! :cool: Cool one 8) mmmm but I cant help wonderin how she would go if one were to make it so the keel goes in the water??? :twisted:

Tim mate it was underground Nickel mine east of Norseman south of Kambalda... just south of our very own gold mining town of Kalgoorlie... anyway Ive left that one and as weve recently sold the place in Mandurah and bought a nice wee 2acre place down south at Brunswick Junction were on the move!! its near the coast and the port of Bunbury and close as spit to Collie where the coal mines are!! So I will probably end up workin drivin a truck at the Collie Coal Mine for Griffin Coal in the near future Unless I can pursuade her highness to allow me enough rope and $$$$ to begin my own business... probably enough to hang meself but hey! Gotta give it a go eh!! Actually Tim the only design of Johns I really like isnt actually his but his offsider Stuart something or other called the Swiftsure... dont know if its still available but boy it was a great lookin wee design plenty of strings and a stunning sillihete {spl} {not sayin he cant design he can its just that nothing has really taken me you know?} aahhh yes the wee Stevensons designs... still like em heeps just cant seem to decide!! Bloody ply is so flamin expensive down here Id rather build strip plank cause in reality I can get shiteloads of timber for a better price than the flamin ply epoxy and glass!.. which is actually why Ive cancelled out on the Grey Seal design {in the avitar} by Iain Oughtred... to much flamin ply!.. oops just noticed that Id changed that avitar to Elly the 130+ year old Norse boat belonging to a fella in Nova Scotia... boy I gotta watch that eh!! At the moment Ive "sorta settled" on building Murray Petersons Susan design a nice wee 28ft 6in Schooner... and she wants me to build either St Valery, Noyo Trawler or the Golant Gaffer as a smaller easily achievable build to get me rolling... we just cant decide!!! :roll: make that I cant decide cause if I do decide Im stonkered when someone shows me something else!!! :twisted: Also the ones shes chosen above can be done in strip plank so the ply/epoxy/glass issue isnt a big issue with them. Tiff and I never made it topside mate... the timing was upta... right at the moment of booking for Vancouver that Sars thing hit somewhere in Canada and Tiff decided that the better part of valor and her health demanded she stay put and go another day... now shes gotten engaged and has started a new life with her man up in Perth workin like a banshee and still playing Soccer but I think her interests are changing {becomin "clucky" like her old man! Id love another nipper now our youngest is 11... think a fella would learn after 8 eh?! :roll:}... however!! We are presently talking with her and Bens parents regarding options for their honeymoon so its not totally out of the question! Frank... White ants are termites mate and we here in the great land dowunder love the wee critters... well we must!! they seem to be EVERYBLOODYWHERE!!! chompin away through any and all timber they can sniff out... mongrel things!!! On this note there was a fishin boat out in a backyard in Kal that was just sittin there had been for some years apparently while the bloke that owned it was workin the other side of Leinster and I had me a gander at her... wandered all round her went to climb up but mate I sorta noticed the wee tracks in the keel... had a closer look got out me trusty pocket knife a poke here a poke there all around the keel and mate all it was was shards of thin vaneer left the whole keel was eaten out!!! looking closely at the stem and stern and same thing... Now Im a believer... the ANTS EAT WOODEN BOATS!! sure is a scarey thought for a bloke who wants to build a woodenboat down here!! Aussies? yes mate were flamin great people just ask us we'll tell yer no worries!! we will also tell you our beaches are best our women the sexiest our beer the best etc etc etc.. and yeah mate Im biased! dont know about the flaminruddy cussin though we dont flamin swear at all most of the flaminbloody time anyways! Gidday Charlie! Ows it angin ol fella? Wow yerve been flamin busy ol son! Beautiful boat mate... sigh how is it yous fellas can DEFLAMINCIDE!!!!??? I dont get it... so many MANY boats to choose from and yet you fellas seem to go "ah yes thats the one" and get stuck into it! Me Im goin "ah yes tha... oohhh shite thats the fla... ooh but now thats gotta... mmmm umm now tha... but lookit this... " ad nauseum!! drives me flamintroppo! The other probs I cant seem to surmount in my quest... is do I go power or do I go sail?... do I go older design or do I go newer?... damned if I can flaminwell get me noggin around it!! Presently Im tryin to contact a pommy fella livin in Aussie named Derek from Scruffie boats about his 27ft LOA Secret design seems his pommy located distributer/offsider has let the cat outta the bag to me that Derek has finally drawn the lines and offsets for a 37ft LOA Secret!!... Derek does his boat designs then makes kits and you buy the kit Id prefer the plans and build from them so Im hopin like billio to be able to get ahold of the plans Will I build it? damned if I know!!! Dont ask silly questions! but I love the pommy pilot boat look 8) Glad to be back! :cool:

Gidday there Frank Mate its been a heck of a journey to arrive back here I can tell you! Amazing thing this life eh? Twists and turns tangents and turmoils brilliant!! Seems one always turns back to the things one loves... in this case boats! 8) The goldfields didnt have many boats... and buggar all wooden ones other than a folding one I was told about but couldnt find... I did see a ply fishin boat though mmmm unseaworthy full of white ant and a grumpy old owner who objected strongly in typical Aussie outback fashion to my pryin queeries about her "buggarorfyerdopeymongrel" :roll: Tis a hot place and a fun place altogether... the mine was a brilliant experience... nothin at all in life above ground prepares one for life underground!! AMAZING! Anyways am still in the midst of catchin up with all the yarns happenins and boat stuff you blokes and sheilas have been posting!!

Look at that I FOUND ME!!! :shock: .. gawd strewth that took some sortin through the archives! whew :oops: Okay back to purusin the happenins since last I wandered through messinabout! 8)

Origami boats have been around for some time now... Brent Swain the designer is from BC and designs up to 40ft Plans for the 26 are $200, for the 31 $300, for the 36 $350 and for the 40 $500. They can be ordered the same way as the book, as below: To reach Brent by mail, write to: 3798 Laurel Drive, Royston, British Columbia, Canada V0R-2V0 To order a copy of Brent's book "How to Build a Better Steel Boat -- a Heretic's Guide" (illus.,100 pages paperback) send $20 plus $3 for postage to the above address. Brent's e-mail address is: brentswain38@yahoo.ca Another fella in BC also designs them up to 60ft Greg Elliott Easy Software Inc. 1990 Casano Drive North Vancouver, BC Canada V7J 2R2 tel: (604) 987-0050 fax:(253) 550-6928 email: greg@easysoftwareinc.com Aside from many web sites they have had a Yahoo group site for some years now {2000} here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/origamiboats/ and there is more info here http://www.boatbuilding.ws/brent.htm If you go to the yahoo group and look under files there is one called "An origami model patten" which you can print out and you will get the principal of how simple this seems to be. Note all that being said without having built or bought the plans for one of these boats or the book for that matter... just as a FYI 8)

Gidday Jo long time no yarn hows things up there in Phili? betcha yer all goin great guns eh?!!! I just love those kids haircuts what a hoot!! Aarons been askin for a mohawk for years now and Ive always managed to avoid giving him one... but now!! HA!!! way 8) I may even have to have one and dye me hair bright Orange!!! :shock: what with me white beard that would be pretty out there or what! 8) oh meant say to Greg... fine job on the wee boat mate many years of fun and laughter on the water ahead of you all 8)

Wahooooooooo what a hoot!!! brilliant stuff Greg absoflaminlutely BRILLIANT!! 8) Did the boys get the mohawks for launch day? you know pirates aargghhh were tha feircest meanest pirates aarrrgghhh... you know that sorta thing? Brilliant!!! 8)

Gidday Graeme Snupi is comin along a real treat isnt she! wow great job given the small quarters in your shed 8) I was sent a book about the totally fascinating story of Oak Island by one Michael Mason a naval architect and designer up there in Nova Scotia... and he has this penchant of sending me photos of one Bill Wilkinsons beautiful Swedish Koster design known as Elly 130+ years old and still sailing! :shock: amazing beautiful boat she is 8) ... Elly is kept {when hauled} at Bill Lutwicks {Ludwick? unsure of the spelling} yard in Lunenburg... and thats her in my avitar this is definantly one boat I cannot get enough of! :wink: Sadly last year I missed on a trip up there when one of my kids got an invite to a sporting thing in Kolowna {sp?} and we intended to travel by train to Nova Scotia but sadly things changed and well we didnt get there... it ever happens again Im buyin the tickets before anything can change our minds again! Canada is number 1 on my must see places in this world Regarding your dusty lady up there... do you have any sketches of the changes youve made you would care to post up here so we can have a bit of a gander? 8) As Frank said some of us are curious fellas and the possibility of it being just what the doctor ordered has real potential 8) Anyway shes coming along a treat thanks for the pics mate!

Well done Steve!! No matter the boats I look at seeing another Stevensons hit the water makes me pause... they look flamin good for such small ply boats... nice job mate well done 8)

I must admit Ive thought the same thing at times... then I see the strips starting up the moulds and shake my noggin and lay a couple more... Course its cheeper to buy one or even a kayak for that matter second hand... for me at least its the journey of the building thats the actual fun part! 8) Like restoring the old ply and pine skiff I coulda bought one for the amount Im spending on this old girl... but think of the end mate the end when shes sittin there all purty and ready for the drink... and she'll be all my work! :wink: Then theres the reason why Ive painted her yellow too... remember the old Beatles song?... well I can act all cool as she goes under and start singing "We all love in a yellow submarine" with this huge cheshire cat look on me dial a look that says "Dont worry about it sinkin... I new that!" Its the journey

Hey there Jake Theres the wee lassie of Mac McCarthy of course although small at wee lasie at 12ft and 14ft for the wee lassie 2 although from an email from Mac a few months back he reckons the station moulds can be moved out a few inches to make 16ft or so... but I think from your post the tractor fellas after something a bit tougher than a wee lassie... Then you have Gil Kilpatrick or somesuch who bought out a book called building strip canoes or something like that... hes a fella was a guide in the Adrionaks {sp?} and a champion canoe paddler for many years... I know it sounds as though Im a bit vague on this mate but thats the book you should get!!... he goes into great detail on building several designs "white guide" "laker" and "grand laker" from 16ft through to 20fters 1, 2 and 3 man and the flat transom for outboard type... he has also included in the book the offsets for 6 or 7 canoes... probably the grand laker at 20ft would be ideal its apparently a big canoe for carrying loads. Hes the sorta fella that seems to from his writing to go in for making a canoe not as a show pony but as a work unit tough and take the punishment of being portaged around over rocks and such. Anyway will have a hunt later and find the name of the bloke and book... unless someone else has it on their shelf and lobbs up with it! 8) Good luck with it... oh and Jake? mate the work you did on the kayak you wouldnt do on the canoe!! You will find a canoe simple after that beauty! oooh if hes after ribs and such then Piccollo? Bruce Taylor build one awhile back and the plans were in the Woodenboat magazine a couple of years back... has the added advantage of the drawings including sails riggins etc!!... maybe I can find them and scan them and email them through for you? let me know

Interesting!!! Ive always considered that we Aussies are most similar to the Canadians :? Must get to meet some Texans in person one day... the only Americans Ive met in person have been a couple from New York a fella from Seattle an interesting girl from San Fransisco :twisted: a couple of totally troppo buggars from a place called something or other that I cant remember in Michagan... we are excused from remembering the particular place due to an excessive amount of imbibing of the amber fluid of the gods and some wakky tabbakky that didnt stop so I dont remember a whole lot about that particular week in Darwin :oops:

Well... okay a tad impassioned I became and apologize for my rather emotional outburst... apology is offered and the hand of peace outspread to all including Dave. 2 years is a long time Dave and yes its been well over that since the debarkle you talk of... the cost wasnt only in you leaving the forum which of itself a sad thing that lessened the information available to those who would learn and seek answers to their questions... but also Chris a fella in Canada who is restoring one of these schooners who left the forum due in no small part to some of your comments. Ive tried many times to apologize to you... and although you once said you accepted that I feel that somehow you havent... since I still find you dredging up that event which to me is now part of the history of learning I along with all of us must go through... I have learnt many a lesson since I started coming on this internet in search of my boating dreams and some Ive had to learn with a crashing resounding whack and yes at times with a few... but learn I do... I realized not long after that time that you were in fact right with your estimation at the time and so shelved my thoughts of the schooner until such a time when my experience knowledge and ability could fesibly achieve it and informed the forum to that fact to assague any continuing issues regarding it... maybe one day I will get to build it but then again maybe never? who knows! but one learns... Part of apologizing at least where I come from is the ability to accept it when given... and be able to continue without bringing the event up... in other words apology accepted no worries move forward maintaining perhaps a degree of caution until comfort and freindship is fully restored... or apology not accepted and a holding onto the event such as you have chosen to do. Sad fact is that I think you are a hell of a wealth of knowledge experience and skill that I for one do respect although I do perhaps sound as though I dont... Probably an Australian thing I tend not to look at any person with awe or godlike simpering... to me your just a bloke thats been fortunate enough in your time to learn what I wish to learn nothing more and nothing less... People are people Dave we all blow off we all learn and we all take our lessons and move forward and if we are lucky we are able to stay the course in friendship... and as people we all tend to make mistakes say things that we assume or suspect and as is the case with the internet often we base that on what we read and how we conscrue what is written... and hopefully we are big enough to aknowledge when we have been wrong and apologise for it... and conversely be big enough to honestly accept that apology when given... Its another part of the human condition Dave. Mike I write as I write... I dont ask any to change their method of expression or the words they use and dont change mine unless its solely for clarity but that takes time... like anyone else you can understand what I write I have always used the ... to express a pause in a paragraph or sentence... I use "strine" when I am talking because thats how I talk normally and often I talk to myself as Im writing so the "strine" just flows... Im not apologizing for either just stating its the way I write... and as you well know from your phone calls to me the way I speak is very much with an Australian accent. Some reckon Im worse tha Steve Irwin or Croc Dundee ever where... ah well such is as it is Frank I do come here occasionally as I like the comeraderie of mateship that has been created and the posts that are considerate and informative particularly about Stevensons wee boats... its quite a pleasure to relax in the quiet zone you have created... and I do apologize for the intemperate remarks of my previous post.

well Mike you do have my email phone number and address... I wasnt and never have had a problem with you You say "I was being trashed concerning several issues"... not by me! In the threads mentioned I wasnt questioning the posters comments but rather trying to get clarity of what they were saying to do... I also wanted to avoid a total pull down of the saws arbor which is what was being suggested... it that what you mean by "You were questioning several different opinions, as some was not telling you what you wanted to hear" of course I didnt want to hear that!!... gawd this is and was at that time a brand spanking new saw!! I am not a machinist I am not comfortable playing with arbors and such so of course I didnt want to hear that that is what I should do!... I have spent most of this evening with a machinist who works at setting up timber working machines as a living and he has gone over it from one end to the other and the machine is fine. There were three contributors to my problems with the machine... First the stance of myself when feeding a 10 - 12ft length without support extra support under the feed in side Second... the fence is not good enough as the rear end comes in too far still and must be checked after every pass Third... the motor hanging of the back not putting any tension on the belt when the blade was set low... a sand bag hung of the motor fixed that. So there are the problems the resolutions are simple 1 build another smaller width saw hoarse to hold the infeed get another fence and the sandbag which is done. I shall not be posting any questions on any board from here on if this is the type of crap one has to go through for doing so.

Well this is a fine thing... thanks Simon for pointing this out. Lets not be shy here fellas the post your talking about was written by me on the woodenboat.com form... I wrote the questions after experiencing problems thinking it responsible to stop the machine and get advice when one doesnt have an answer either personally or from the machines manual... which in this case was just a put it together and be done manual not a manual with troubleshooting or resolving problems manual... I thought as I always have that when I dont know something the best policy is to stand up and admit it and ask for help BEFORE it became yet more serious a problem which is what I did... I thought I was being responsible and safety conscious but from above apparently not. Dave why the blazes couldnt you be man enough to have posted that response to my questions where I asked for advice? Time and again mate Ive tried to make amends for whatever slight you have taken and time and again you have chosen to ignore me. thats cool But this was me asking for help and advise that you were able to give but unwilling... this was advice I needed and asked for regarding what had the potential to have caused a huge problem for me and in fact did cause some small blood loss... you could have helped you could have given this advice where I asked for it instead you ignore the question on the forum I asked it and come over here to post it??? gawd talk about pathetic! You say I should have known better? Tell me how? I read the instruction manual I did as that thing said and I then still had problems so I asked for advice where I beleived one of the best sources of advice would be willing to offer it... you read it!!! you still do read the posts on the woodenboat forum Dave but did you help when advice was asked for? NO you came over here big noting yourself. You could have helped Dave... you chose to remain silent... Did I ignore all the other advice that was given? NO I didnt but you assume I did... The only thing I havent done but are presently in the processes of doing is changing the table insert... and now I am going back over the entire machine AGAIN!!! Funny I thought I was being responsible by stopping the machine when I have a problem and seeking help before it becomes a real problem... you could have helped but chose not to dont you dare come to another forum that I rarely attend and start sprouting how I should have done this or if Id done that and not say anything to me where I posted it... talk about ignorant! Bob the problems as yet are still being worked through... dont assume because Im still having problems that I havent tried what you suggested I have but it quite simply hasnt resolved them!!! I am buying a new blade tomorrow which annoys the hell out of me since both the ripping blade and the planer blade are flamin new less than 10 hours use on either but advice was to try a new blade and even at the cost of $70 per blade I am going to do that as well as everthing else recomended by yourself Bruce and the others I know to have experience knowledge and give their advice freely and without judgement... and I will be going after the arbor this arvo... so I do listen and am prepared to take advice when asked for and given. Mike I asked for advice!!! You thouht you had answers for the problems? WHY NOT RESPOND???? gawd those statements of "I saw that thread and sayed far away from it" sort of thing drive me nuts!!... IF someone asks for help or advice honestly asks for it and you have an idea of being able to help then offer it!!! shite!!!... That was my post mate and when over the 3 years Ive been on that board have I ever had a shot at yourself when you have offered advice Mike? The only answer is Never... I respect most people who have more experience than I and am more than able to say so and have done many times not only to yourself and Bob and Bruce but also to the sage up there... who denigns to be above offering his advice to one such as I instead choosing to ignore me to the extent that his lack of offering advice where I would have read it when it was asked for had the potential to cause more problems than I actually have... Yet I am held as irresponsible??? Sorry Frank but this guy doesnt address the questions where they are asked this guy sits back like some all seeing all knowing sage of all things boat and machines and yet when asked for advice he ignores you only to go elsewhere and big note himself... You got advice for me about the questions I ask about my new machine Dave Fleming post it where I ask!! at least then you would be seen to be being helpful not a jerk

My sentiments exactly Tim So quickly the US forgets its allies... so quickly its almost disgusting... point of fact Konrad is that Britain and Australia have been there in the feild of this so called war on terror since the start and are still there!!... In fact if memory serves rightly it was Australian SAS forces who were on the ground first {yes even before US troops} in that other recently seemingly forgotten feild of the war on terror Afganistan... So Im gonna add my two bobs worth as a member of the rest of the world and tell you to st... nah I at least respect Franks one rule even if you find it impossible you arrogant... ahem oops? :? Its a damned hard rule to stick to at this moment Frank!! :roll: Consideration for others is a worthy thing... respecting others even more so... condemning your allies as "a bunch of spineless, hand-wringing, pillow-biting cowards" is nothin less than disgusting and surely cause for censure of the poster if nothing else?

STREWTH MATE!!! Someone dropped icecream all over yer car and yard!!! shite that looks flamin COLD... did I say COLD?? lets try FREEZIN!!! :shock: :shock: okay thats another for the desktop alongside Joes picturesque one of his place in NY and Michael Masons of his place in Nova Scotia man yous fellas have gotta be some kinda seals or something to live in that stuff! :? Okay I will now accept given the state of yer yard and that white sugar all over the place and finally realizing just what punishment you are sufferin in your winters (gawd what the blazes did your ancestors do so wrong that you deserve to be that cold??) Anyway mates I will now willingly accept pics of whatever it is your muckin with in yer heated shop... heated? gawd cant imagine it getting that cold!! Good on yer Joe! was wondering how your barn was gettin on... but why did yer stick yer kayak in the rafters for? go have a paddle mate!!! HA! :twisted: remember to stick a personal heater in yer thermal wetsuit wont you!!! hows the dowh dawh dawle whatever the sail boat is called you and Tess and the dawg muck about in :oops:

Seein as its near on Chrissy... an yous fellas an sheilas are heading into yer hibernatin season cause yer all cold and frozen and stuff like that and were all hot and bothered and such... I thought now would be a great time for yous builders restorers and repairers to post progress pics of yer boats... High C??? Joe CSOH??? Chris??? Jake??? Anyone else whos doin a weegender or a vacashuner or even a pocket crusher please feel energized to post a pic or two 8)

Cheers to you and yours Jake and Frank and everyone!!! 8) ... may the new year bring yer everythin yer hearts desire I post the Aussie Jinglebells so all will know what were up to this coming season... yer probably wont understand it since yer all freezin up there in the midst of yer winter but its DROPDEAD GORGEOUS SUMMER here and aint we lovin it!!! 8) ooohhh yeah! :twisted: gotta rub it in --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aussie Jingle Bells Dash-ing through the bush in a rus-ty hol-den ute Kick-ing up the dust Es-ky in the boot Kel-pie by my side Sing-ing Christ-mas songs sum-mer-time and I am in my sing-let shorts and thongs Chorus Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells jingle all the way Christ-mas in Aus-tra-lia on a scor-ching sum-mer's day Oh! Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells Christ-mas time is beaut Oh what fun it is to ride in a rus-ty hol-den ute Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden ute Engine's getting hot we dodge the Kangaroos The swaggie climbs aboard he is welcome too All the family is there sitting by the pool Christmas day in the Aussie way by the Bar-b-que Oh! Chorus Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells jingle all the way Christ-mas in Aus-tra-lia on a scor-ching sum-mer's day Oh! Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells Christ-mas time is beaut Oh what fun it is to ride in a rus-ty hol-den ute Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden ute followed by a chorus of laughter: Ha ha ha Come the afternoon grandpa has a doze The kids and Uncle Bruce are swimming in their clothes The time comes round to go we take a family snap And pack the car and all shoot-through Before the washing up Oh! Chorus Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells jingle all the way Christ-mas in Aus-tra-lia on a scor-ching sum-mer's day Oh! Jin-gle bells jin-gle bells Christ-mas time is beaut Oh what fun it is to ride in a rus-ty hol-den ute Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden ute ----------------------------------------------------- Cheers for Chrissy mates and matesses... heres wishin yer all a great one and a fanbloodytastic New Year!

Well mateys I reckon thats a fine move 8) ... was a tad worried for a nanosecond there as I logged on... I will get in? will I be made to register again... or horror of horrors would I be downgraded to... gasp choke splutter fume... "guest" :shock: now I didnt really think ol Frank could be that :twisted: so as I said one nanosecond later all thoughts evaporated... and so I typed me name an password in and whallah!! in like flamin flynn... as the ol song goes "love is in the air" Some times things try to escape from the bilge but the rarefied air knocks em down again... And Frank yer reckoned was a time yer would ask for a phone number to varify the member??? so why didnt yer ask me for mine eh? I mean we coulda had a right royal yarn!!! Im easier to unnerstan on the blower than I seem to be on some of these boards Oyster Mike has some fun during his calls his youngun reckons he sounds just like Steve Flamin Irwin who by the way we wish to give as a gift to you for no charge anytime yer want him now would be good yesty even bedda :? ... mind you with Mikes accent its me who has no flamin idea what hes sayin!!! strewth I dont have an accent I can unnerstan me perfickly Now on to another tack thats bin niggling at me... so Frank hows the calendar coming mate? 8) Im gonna get me one regardless if me wee canoeythingy an hoons is on its cover... but then... nah!! no pre-emptin Shane yer galah Messingabout is a small oasis of sanity... okay exceptin Konrad of course who like me own good self is as mad as a cut snake ...but anyways its a fine place! 8)

How the flamin eck are you gonna live abourd that Simon??? shite mate seems to me you will have all but your southern dial in that wee bucket youve made... aahhh I see! penny drops :? ...the wonderous joys of new parenthood eh ...ooohh the brilliance of hourly feedin through the long nights :? the dirty poopsys in the nappy trick the burpin scenarios of nice clean shirt as you get ready to go out buuuurp damn! new shirt... piddles poops and pukes great stuff!!! nah seriously theyre a hoot {why else would this pair of galahs have 8 of them?!! :wink: } and you will have a flamin ball mate! Hope all went well for the missus durin the delivery and you didnt suffer to much 8) Now about that lawn mate?? :? can you work a lawn mower?? :shock: :roll: sure could do with a haircut that green stuff great hidy holes for snakes in there... now get into it with the PC mate 8)

Frank sorry to hear about your dad... may he be at peace when the time comes for him to take his next jouney... take your time mate believe me I know what your going through having recently lost my mum (1 month ago and still trying to come to terms with it) its a trying time for all. We aint goin nowhere but thanks for the headsup... appreciated... as I said from downunder you just take all the time you need mate.