CS15 with a lug yawl rig

[Andy B]

11 hours ago, Viktor Steimle said:

 

Are you, or is anybody else here aware of a Coresound that is yawl-rigged with Coresound-style sprit sails? Naively I would think that this should work quite nicely and also, at least in part, be in keeping with the classic Coresound look. I imagine one would choose the mainsail from the next bigger model, move the mast step a bit further back and go with the mizzen quite a bit smaller, maybe form one of the Spindrifts. Again, I freely admit to my almost complete ignorance, but somehow I think it might work quite nicely, if done properly.

 

The earlier models had two mast steps up front--one for the usual position and one further aft.  In those models the sails were sleeved, so couldn't be reefed easily, so the plan was to take down the mizzen sail and move the main to the middle hole (or the mizzen there, can't remember).  My 2004 has that hole, though I've never used it because the sails can be reefed in a normal manner.

 

Anyway, there is already a mast step/hole in the plans in that location if that's what you wanted to do.

[meester]

HI Viktor,

 

About tending the mizzen: On my boat, the mizzen sheet is cleated on the stern bench, and the snotter is above the transom.  I do have to reach back for these controls, ( @Don Silsbe is this what you meant?)  but it's a small boat, and the controls could be led forward if needed.

 

I don't think there's any need to be leery of the cat ketch rig.  It's powerful, manageable, race-proven and good-looking.  I'd be very surprised if the B & B didn't have good rowing configurations for all of the Core Sound boats. 

 

My impression is that tent design requires creativity on just about any boat.  See this thread for some ideas: https://messing-about.com/forums/topic/12937-making-a-tent-for-a-sailboat/.  

 

Bob

 

[Viktor Steimle]

Thanks Andy and Bob,

Andy, I am aware of the third mast step in the Coresounds, thank you.

 

Bob, on my CY the mizzen sheet leads to a cleat at the aft end of the cockpit, so it is within easy reach for adjustment.

 

I would dearly love to test-drive a Coresound, or even get to see one close up. However, there just does not seem to be one around me (I live in Quebec, close to the Vermont border).

 

Anyway, I am planning to enjoy my CY for quite a few more years as my main ride ("the family saloon" if you want, although I am mostly single handing). But since I seem to have caught the boat building bug, there will probably be some smaller projects in the nearer future, before I get to my "last boat". I am hoping that by then there will be a CS17-SR (or Mk2, or whatever it is going to be called).

 

Cheers,

 

Viktor

[Jonathan M. Cohn]

@Don Silsbe No need to worry. I like the standard rig on my 17.3 but I enjoyed seeing the Lug and hearing about its design for @meester's CS15. Storer and Wellsford really seem to like their Lug sails. I love the balance of my CS17.3 rig and haven't had any issues dropping or reefing yet. I'll embrace the status quo for awhile but I do lust after the bowsprit many Mark III's have and I keep trying to convince myself a mizzen staysail would be fine and not require any new construction.

[Don Silsbe]

I had a bad experience with a balanced lug rig once.  The downhaul was inadequate, and the winds were stiff.  The luff of the sail kept bowing when I tried to come about.  I finally ended up gybing.  It was frustrating, and put me off the rig.  That rig appears to be the bell of the ball at the present time.  I also like Roger Barnes' boomless version.  It is so simple to reef.  It is lousy downwind, however.  My first mate loves the leg o' mutton rig that is used on B&B's boats, because there is little danger of getting whacked in the head with a boom.  She also likes the lack of a jib, which allows her to maintain her preferred sailing posture.