Andy B

At the risk of being incredibly impolite--does that "keel"/ bowsprit have a functional purpose? I know it leads down into the keel, but I've always thought it really throws the proportions of an otherwise pretty boat really out of whack. Could you just cut off most of it, fix the bow behind it, and not replace it?

@Reacher, totally understood, it is a murky area when there are dishonest sellers and buyers. FWIW, forums like this, where people are open and honest, are really valuable. I'd buy your boat site unseen just because there's a history (and because, as we both know, the CS-20 mk1 is the best iteration of the Core Sound boats there is!)

Reacher, I disagree with the definition of "as-is" you found. Here's the Black's Law Dictionary: "In the existing condition without modification. Under UCC 2-316, a seller can disclaim all implied warranties by stating the goods are being sold 'as-is' or 'with all faults.' Generally, a sale of property 'as-is' means that the property is sold in its existing condition, and the use of the phrase as is relieves the seller from liability for defects in that condition." Implied warranties are that the boat would be good for its ordinary purpose (ie, "does this thing float and sail?") and that it would be good for a particular purpose (ie, "will this thing be good for the Everglades Challenge?"). All said, I would be comfortable with only "as is" and recommending that buyer can get a survey. I would not want to prepare a list of defects--do that, and if you miss one you face allegations of concealing a known defect when otherwise you were making promises about the fitness of the boat. That's not a good position. Edit: sorry if this is a little intense, I care about legal definitions like some of you care about fenders hanging off the side while under sail

Genius!

I was able to see this post, I haven't for a while. And thanks for all you do, Frank!

@Mark Hensley, I think this is your boat based on where you bought it and the color scheme. Hopefully I'm not a creeper, I just remember it because I was looking at the time and it was great deal (to the guy you bought it from):

Your "game day hack" is not bad. My centerboard has the opposite problem, it's too tight. That makes it a bear to pull down. I took out the bungee arrangement because it just made it harder. I sail mostly over sandy bottoms, so it's not a huge concern. I have a break away cleat for my moments of stupidity forgetfulness. I've thought about tying a stout bungee cord to the centerboard. It would not be used to lower the board, but just used when I think needed. I'd just leave the normal downhaul loose and put the bungee through the cleat.

I very well might. When I installed them I literally spent 15 minutes trying them on different sides. I asked my son if he could see any difference. Sometimes it looked like there was a difference, sometimes not. I was genuinely mystified by it. If you can point out how to tell, I'd love to hear it and I'll switch them. I do think they are overkill and eventually I'll switch to something smaller and likely just straight, not skene.

Here’s some nice late-season sailing from this past weekend. I didn’t log it, but we hit 7 knots with regularity on a beam reach. Not bad with six people aboard! IMG_9027.mov IMG_9028.mov IMG_9033.mov

That boat is pretty much everything I want my CS-20 to be someday! Excellent job, Nick, and someone's going to get a great sailboat! I also heartily endorse naming your sailboat after waterfowl!

I can attest that Paul can sail the heck out of a CS-17, he was fun to watch!

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Here's an update from this weekend in Muskegon--we had FOUR Core Sound boats attend. It was awesome! Red, Andy Bl, Don Silsbe, and Paul356 were there--I feel bad I didn't get a group photo! It was really gusty, and we had some adventures beaching and launching from a lee shore, but that added to the "fun" and we all gained some experience. It's great to meet folks you've dialogued with on the internet, and see all the different features on each boat, and most of all build relationships. I'll post some Core Sound photos below.

off topic, but it looks like your lines are on top of a painter's bench/platform. I bought one this spring and I've been amazed how often I use it around the boat. It's lightweight and folds easily. I've used it for jsut getting in and out of the boat when loading lots of stuff or doing projects (way better than trying to get my foot to land on the small spot on the trailer), a temporary work bench, doing work on the bow without having to climb all the way up (I'm shorter and have short arms), and many other things. If you don't have one, get one!