Princess Sharpie 28

[John Turpin]

Holy Cow.  That looks bigger than my house!  Turn her over and let's see what she looks like!

[ecgossett]

I don't see plans on the website for a 28??

[PeterP]

You guys flatter me no end. Especially John - man who owns that double story tent & pink flamingo set up! - impressed by 28 ft pile of sticks. No way! The P28 plans are work in progress -Edward. PeterP

[Greever]

May I ask how much tankage you plan to have, and where it will be located? I see the fuel tank behind the engine in the plans, but what about the freshwater and holding tanks?

Will you have an enclosed head?

Sure looks like a perfect Great Loop boat to me. I see her as being very fuel efficient, and with the ability to drop the masts fairly easily is a huge bonus.

Will you use metal ports, or plastic to keep the weight down?

I can't wait to see more of your build progress.....

Andy Greever

[Richard Whitney CS#70]

Peter - I am toying with building P22 with cedar strip like you have on P28.  My questions are - having done it, and if you didn't already have the cedar-  would you do it again.  And how do you think it would work to just use cedar strip strip at the turn of the bilge or on the bottom and turn of the bilge.

[PeterP]

Greever, there will be a 25gal water tank under the V berth  and 5gal day tank under the sink. No holding tank -as I am thinking composting head at this time. I really like the home made ports featured in the last WoodenBoat No 215( Herreshoff ). Richard- I don't want to discourage anybody. We all get spoiled using ply wood -with how fast and fair it comes out. The trade off is the boxy look. I knew it was going to eat up lots of time and I was right( by about half).I am way behind where I  had thought I would be and cedar is certainly a major part of that.But there are other issues in the rest of my life that are slowing things down. How bad do you want a curvy boat? - I wanted one bad enough obviously. And once the hull is done they finish out the same. The combination of ply and strips has been done before and is worth contemplating. ( It certainly crossed my mind numerous times in the mind numbing hours towards the end of strip gluing). There are efficiencies to be gained which I had to figure for my self. So hooking up with someone in the know will help.  Getting extra help may be worth considering. I am tickled pink every time  I look at her and yet I  shiver when I think I was going to do  36 foot trimaran originally.PeterP

[Greever]

Thank you for the response.

I assume she will have the kick-up rudder? Sure looks like you will be able to do some serious gunkholing in her.

Good luck with the build and don't stress yourself with artificial timelines. It loooks great so far.

Do you know if Graham is waiting for your build to be finished before he offers the plans to the public?

If that's the case disregard what I said about artificial timelines. Hurry up and finish that build!

(just kidding. sort of.......)

Andy Greever

[PeterP]

Here we go with more pictures. Trying to get all the ducks lined up for the turn over ended up giving me a major case of sour stomach but it all worked out in the end. Forked out big bucks and rented a telescoping forklift, got the help lined up, laid out a live 240V wire to suck on in case my heart stopped half way through the operation-every angle covered as you can see. Then the day dawned pretty, the forklift showed on time, the help did too and one hour later she was finally right way up. And I didn't come anywhere near needing the wire. Life is good. PeterP

[Hirilonde]

Hmmm, seems building that one has a few more logistics issues than my Spindrift.  Looking good.

[John Turpin]

Was crane guy able to tell you what it weighs?

[PeterP]

John, that wasn't a crane, it was a boom out forklift. I made a square foot sample of of the hull material for Graham to fine tune his calculations and it came in at just under 2lbs/sq.ft. So Graham thinks - based on the area -the hull weighs about 800 lbs. Bit less actually since the inside isn't glassed yet.

[Garry]

Peter,

Congratulations - a major step accomplished! Yay!!

You still have a lot of work to go. I hope you enjoy the build. It's all part of the adventure. Take your time and get it right. A lot of the next steps will be in areas that are difficult to access later on. You don't want to have to go back and change it, or to leave it in less than satisfactory condition because you can't get to it. [some advice based on completing a 28 ft hull and deck kit in the mid 80s.]

I am envious. Please keep us posted on all the little details. I right there with you... vicariously. If I was retired, I'd consider spending some time giving you a hand.

Best wishes, Garry

[cdunc]

That thing is huge!  Looks great. Congrats

[amberger]

Peter,

Looks fantastic; I'm quite jealous .  I can't wait until I see some of the work you'll do for the cabin.

KA 

[Greever]

Bump!

This thread was getting too close to page three.......

[PeterP]

I am reading that last message as an accidental signal leak from different dimension.( Mental note to myself to re-read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy). Made some progress on the P28R. First - the nasties got knocked of the 'glass inside, then I scribed and cut the anchor well bottom and the no.1 bulkhead. Made the hatch for the cavity below which I think will prove useful to store spare anchor rode & chain. Then it was time to laminate the five deck beams. The camber for the main beam I was able to pull off the full size pattern as it coincides with station no.3 - the rest were laminated "fatter" and trimmed to fit in situ. Good clean aromatic fun hand planing spruce. Then everything gets taken apart and coated with e-pox. Now it is time to put it all back in & start the glue up. While things are "drying" I am busy scribing no.2 bulkhead. When that is in I'll frame up for the bunks. PeterP   

[Greever]

Looking good!

May I ask why you are calling her the P28"R" now? Is hull #1 going to be a race version?

[PeterP]

Thank you -R for round bottom version as opposed to chines. No racers over here.PeterP

[Garry]

Thanks again for the updates. I can feel the work in my fingers. The sanding and planing. Mixing the epoxy and shaping the fillets. Clamping and gluing. I can smell the aromas; epoxy slowly kicking off, the slightly different smell of sanding cured epoxy, new grain exposed by a sharp plane's blade.

I can see, and feel, her taking shape. From sticks of wood creating something wonderful.

Is this what they mean by Jonesin'?

I hope my admiration gives you energy Peter!

[PeterP]

Just the man, Garry. Funny you should bring up job satisfaction. I did a quick informal survey the other day and the numbers came back sky high. So high in fact I am glad I don't get paid doing this - less chance of getting reassigned. But you are exactly right -, building a wooden boat- sunny Fall - that is just hard to beat. Seeing how much you still seem to be emotionally involved with P28R -feel free to bounce your ideas off of me. I don't have anything crystallized for the interior and- in fact -Graham is still working out stuff. I did not think your all electric propulsion was quite what I wanted though. The cost/weight/benefit -it did not add up for me. But I liked your aft head placement. My cabin will be a bit longer and the mizzen actually intrudes into it - forcing the companionway over to the side. Hence the head placement there  on the other side makes a lot of sense. Frees up a bit more space that way - for shower perhaps. Anyway, your energy channeling seems to be working fine but please tweak your target coordinates 20 ft to the NW. I think you made some avocado pips sprout in my wife's mulch pile. Stay well and keep in touch -PeterP