boatbuilder.org Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Ran into the first snag, the lower side panel (not shown on the pictures) would not fit properly around the stern. Lofting off, plywood to stiff, a combination, who knows... We hacked off the last 9 feet of the panel and bent a sheet of 3/8 Okoume around the stern, traced and cut it out. The great thing about Okoume is that it bends nice. Will just butt joint the two pieces with a backing plate for now. ---Joel--- Quote
capt jake Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Bummer about the snags. It sure seems like the lofting was done right. I hope it wasn't one of my panels. :oops: Quote
boatbuilder.org Posted February 11, 2006 Author Posted February 11, 2006 i'm sure the the actual lofting was good, I think it was on the generation of the numbers. We did'nt use the same plans as the first Sockeye so it was basicaly a new design as far as the panel projections go, and there seems to be issues on about 50% of the new designs. That is why, for the most part, we do not offer construction plans on boats we have not built ourselves. I can always find a way to pull off a "MacGyver" and make it work, but I'd hate to saddle it on the shoulders of a backyard builder, so I work out the bugs on a new design. ---Joel--- Quote
Guest Oyster Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Whats really weird is when you go from some flared sides, to a vertical or almost upright transom, and then try to do longitual laminations. Yep, give that one to a backwoods builder. :cry: Wild dingo, you listening and paying close attention here, and listening to Mr." Devlin"? :wink: Quote
Guest Oyster Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 I was thinking about this thread and what took place, and thought I would share something that parrallels to this that I read in a book titled "Wooden Boats" by Michael Ruhlman. In chapter III the topic of lofting is discussed with Nat Bejamin and building "Rebecca" http://www.gannonandbenjamin.com/designs.php Its a great read, but notably on page 47, I think it speaks for itself in describing what seems to take place in even the most seasoned folks in curved and raked transoms from the lofting board to real life. So its not an uncommon issue. So no one should beat themselves up over a few pieces of wood. For Nat, who has been doing this for more than two decades, lofting is fairly eay, but the transom is always difficult. Rebecca Quote
boatbuilder.org Posted February 12, 2006 Author Posted February 12, 2006 These days Sam uses Max Surf and Auto CAD where there "should" be no error on line placement but those programs don't take into account how different plywoods bend (or don't). I think Most CAD guys live and die by the numbers the little box spits out, but you don't always get a first down so you sometimes have to drop back and punt. It can get discouraging at times, but I guess in the long run what makes it fun is finding a way to make it work. ---Joel--- Quote
JEM Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 I'm a little late coming into the game. Which design is this? Looks VERY interesting. Love to read these project threads. I can smell that Okoume from here. Quote
capt jake Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Devlin Sockeye 45. Also see the 'Another new build' thread. Quote
Greg Luckett Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 I really like the looks of the Sockeye 45. It would be a perfect boat for the Great Lakes. Quote
Greg Luckett Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 I would love to see how she gets rolled over. Quote
capt jake Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 "Dazed and confused." somebody calling me? LOL Quote
capt jake Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 I would love to see how she gets rolled over. I am looking forward to that also. If you go to Devlin's site and look at the Sockeye under construction (not this boat) there are pictures of the rollover. A small crane is used. :shock: I must say that I am impressed with the progress, and Sam is also. I know it will slow done a bit as we begin the cold molding, but I am still having fun and learning. Joel is an excellent teacher! Quote
Greg Luckett Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Yep, working on it daily really makes it go fast, especially with a crew of folks helping. Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Ahhhh, going to be an exciting time for Capt. Jake. Dazed and confused? Yeah and probably Whelmed too! Tours in order down the road a bit? Quote
capt jake Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Tours can be had pretty much anytime. I would normally confirm that with Joel, but he might get himself in trouble if he posts again; LOL I really meant that comment about his instruction by the way. Quote
Frank Hagan Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Ahhhh' date=' going to be an exciting time for Capt. Jake. Dazed and confused? Yeah and probably Whelmed too! Tours in order down the road a bit?[/quote'] I think that picture is when he realize just how much boat there is to sand ... Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Just think of the expert background he brings to them. Sanding and fairing and sanding and filling and fairing and sanding................ Quote
capt jake Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Just think of the expert background he brings to them. Sanding and fairing and sanding and filling and fairing and sanding Ssssshhhhhhhh! quiet now! I think that picture is when he realize just how much boat there is to sand .. Am I that transparant? LOL Quote
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