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Getting to the stage I needed to decide on sail type, as most of the time I'll be single handed, talked to Graham and pretty much decided on sail track for ease/safty of reducing sail. I have a hobie with sleeve luff and like the round the mast furling but can't see myself going fwd in the CS 17 to roll/furl the main in mounting winds. Travis enjoyed checking out Pilgrim at sail OK last Oct, didn't notice the SS bands so obviously quite unobtrusive. PAR I have a few kayaks where Iv'e mounted pad eye's ect and used silicon sealer, think I'll go back and redo those with epoxy now. hokyhydro used lashing for the main , peak and jib halyards on my small tri, so far working great,just wanted to get opinions from folks with more knowledge/experience with rigs more substancial than my small kayaks/canoes. MM

the composite mast is so obvious it never occurred to me!! If not happy with the wood mast thats going to be my next approach.

Thanks for input, Dave I take it you mean all the way through the mast for the high stress pionts ? PAR couldn't aquire spruce so using fir, so I should make overize hole fill with thickened epoxy and fasten into that ??

Folks I'm just about to start the birdsmouth masts for my Core Sound 17 # 342. have to get masts done to be able to size the mast bearing then progress the decks ect. My question is, other than screws what are the bet ways to mount hardware ? I will be blocking in area's where needed. I may go to aluminum one day but I like the old traditional style and I'm not a racer. Thanks in antisipation. MM

I'm not that far along yet that I have put much thought into a dodger, but it does sound like something that will work for me, have opened the fwd bulkhead (to seat level) and enclosed (air box) to just aft of the mast step. So a body could keep out of the weather to a fair degree. That cataloge has a lot of interesting stuff to. Waiting to see the outcome of this thread. MM

Amazing good news

I have seen both of these boats, and they are indeed a "good job" MM

The ply is indeed fir and that was the prime reason for glass, after many kayaks/canoes I guess it's become a habit.The weight is minimal (and down low)the internal bulkeads ect will be idevidually sized as per intructions as all boats will have slight varyations, they will also be glassed. Interesting thought on a hybrid wood/glass/carbon set up, hope Graham or PAR will enlighten me with info on this subject

So onto the glassing,allowed 12'' overlap at keel giving me 2' total doubling in the working area. After fill coats on to fitting outer keel, inner keel batten and beefed up Transom. Going to have to make desition on mast soon, Spruse hard to come by to do birdseye mast(my preferance)Have a carbon mast on my Hobie but not sure on mast thickness for the CS, The internet will get a workout tommorow. MM

Next as I'm in the boonies I had to devize a rig to turn hull on ownsome, worked fine allowing me to suspend hull and rerig my work table. Then more of the fun stuff sanding/feathering taped seam, ready to glass inside hull.

slow but sure progress ( Busy time of year with shows/messabouts and river trips ). Had a visiting friend help to turn hull so I could radius/fill and tape outer seams. Also glassed entire outer hull, no water getting into this wood !

I'm sure I've overlooked it somewhere but would appreciate info on the capacity of your boats. MM

Thanks folks, I had already doubled up on the transom, is now 1/2''and will add the recomended cross member at mid hight and top. I have an external motor mount which I may use, will see as to what rigging is best but I'm a good ways from that stage, did glass the hull today though. MM

What would be a good schedule for reinforcing the transom to accept a 5/6 hp??. I have the hull upside down ready to glass entire hull (seams/keel are taped). MM

A very easy fix, but don't like moving around a problem without knowing why. Transom not yet attched but a perfect fit, which leads me to a question, I intend to use my 4 HP motor as backup, what would be an appropriate schedule to beef up the transom ??. many thanks for your input ( there will be more questions I'm certain ) John Farrell

well day 2 , wired on side panels, starting from Bow, do couple stiches alternating each side, moveing Aft. This took better part of the day, wired in Fwd Blkhd exactly on the marks, screwd sides at Temp frame. Again recheck my measurements for rear Blkhd ? and location marks in hull, cannot figure where I messed up before starting on the sides this morning I offered the frame to the hull at the location marks and allowing 1/4'' indentation for the side I"m 1/2'' proud of the bottom Panel ( the 3/4'' I refered to ) for a total of 1&1/2'' over. Not a small amount !!

Just started assembling the main hull, 1st Observation,doing the butterfly method is not a 1 person method, . So have the bottom panels all wired up looks real good barely any gap in exess of 1/16'', main temp frame screwed in place also good, but checking the other frames come to find the Aft Blkhd is 3/4'' to wide(both sides), transom & Fwd Blkhd are fine. Double checking my dimentions from cut out plan all apears OK but it's not !! ,obviously I can recut my frame to fit at correct location but wander where I'm messing up?? any thoughts. MM

Don't want to highjack a thread, but like your Dodger, home made or commercial ?? MM

Here's an example

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/articles/birdsmouth/index.cfm#online-calc Her is the Duckworks link. Made several paddle shafts and masts for my small trimaran from inexpensive pine and western red cedar, so far without failure, even in good (20+) winds,actually pretty fun when you get into it. MM

Also made my small trimaran mast using the birdsmouth method. No spruce to be found so I used western red cedar and redwood, came out nice and light, and has withstood 20 mph + gusts with no hint of trouble