Davo Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 G'day all - was wondering if anyone has the larger "racing" sail plan for their CS17? I'm interested in upgrading to more sail area - so would be keen on any info, pics, feedback on performance, mast specs, etc. Cheers Davo Quote
PAR Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Have you sailed the CS-17 with battened sails and slides? Quote
Peter HK Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 If by racing rig you mean battens/roach then I chose that option. As to sailing comparisons I wouldn't know as there are no battenless CS17s around here to race against, but one expects it would be faster. Sail area on mine, according to the sailmaker's computer, is 139sq ft. As you can see from the photo I have a full length batten at the top and 2 reefs ...I've only had to put in one reef so far. Masts are the same. Cheers Peter HK Quote
Davo Posted March 21, 2011 Author Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks for the replies guys - Graham mentioned that there was a larger rig for the CS17 with more roach - I'm not sure how much sail area I have but probbaly more around the standard 110 or so. Is there no larger sail plan than the 139? Obviously there is a limit to area as boat handling would start to be affected if sail area was too large. Davo Quote
Ken_Potts Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Hey Davo, Have you seen Paul and Dawn's CS20 "Dawn Patrol"? Take a look at the roaches on those sails They just recently added a bowsprit and spinnaker to complement their mizzen staysail, too. I highly recommend the mizzen staysail if you don't already have one. They're so much fun they should probably be illegal. Quote
ChrisObee Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Hey Davo, Have you seen Paul and Dawn's CS20 "Dawn Patrol"? Take a look at the roaches on those sails They just recently added a bowsprit and spinnaker to complement their mizzen staysail, too. I highly recommend the mizzen staysail if you don't already have one. They're so much fun they should probably be illegal. How do you tack that bad boy? I take it the stay is a part of the sail and you drop the whole shooting match all at once. Quote
PAR Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 As with all mizzen mules, you have to douse the sail to jibe the boat. With a skilled crew member, you could release the tack, quickly bundle and haul back the mule, let the boom cross over as you attach the tack on the new rail. You'd have to use a double ended staysail sheet too. Quote
paul_stewart Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Chris, The asymmetric spinnaker tacks much like a jib. We also used the mizzen stays'l as a jib out on the bowsprit. To prevent those sails from breaking the main mast we have back stays that are 3-to-1 running back stays (RBS) (see image below). At all times at least one RBS is slack; both are slack if no sails are on the bowsprit. We have bungee lines that pull the RBSs neatly closer to the base of the main mast when they are slack. It turned out that the RBS was not needed in light-to-moderate air. But, you never know when an unexpected mast-breaking gust might strike, so we always used it. Adding the spinnaker added a few lines: halyard, tack, sheet, port RBS, starboard RBS, plus the bungees to keep each RBS neat. We also stretched a bungee around the tip of the main spritboom to help keep the spinnaker from snagging on the spritboom when tacking. I'm the one that is pretty good at tweaking the boat for relaxed cruising. Alan (aka SOS or Alanosauras) is the one that expertly turned the boat into a kick-ass racing machine. Photos here: http://messing-about.com/forums/index.php?/topic/7215-everglades-challenge/ --Paul Quote
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