lbrewer Posted November 21, 2008 Author Posted November 21, 2008 Launch Day? ??? You mean I have to finish it? Quote
Greg Luckett Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Launch Day? ??? You mean I have to finish it? LMAO Quote
Steve Day Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 It is a boat, after all. It's a little big to be a coffee table in the living room. ;D Steve Quote
lbrewer Posted November 29, 2008 Author Posted November 29, 2008 Should I have a sheet in my spindrift plans with the sailplan? I actually built a mast as a novelty, to no particular plan, before I started the boat. The mast is 12 ft and I've made a 30 inch biax covered foam extension so it would fit the luff sleeve of the sail I bought on Ebay. I hope it works for the spindrift, but I have a sneaking suspicion that I am going to end up with a bit of lee helm. It would be helpful if there was something in the plans showing the preferred sailplan with little tidbits like the CLR and CE. If It doesn't work out I'll just get the correct sail for the boat.....or experiment some more . I do think the birdsmouth mast is neat though. Steve, how tall is your mast? Quote
lbrewer Posted November 29, 2008 Author Posted November 29, 2008 Besides scratching my head about the sail, I spent most of the day shaping, sanding and generally preparing the brightwork for finish coatings. I am going to try Bristol finish on this one as I've heard some encouraging reports on the longevity as compared to varnish. Still have to prime, probably a little more fairing, and paint before I get to the bright stuff in the boat. I was going to try to get that done this weekend but it started raining and its supposed to rain till monday . The Bristol I ordered last weekend hasn't arrived yet or I could finish out the appendages: Quote
Hirilonde Posted November 29, 2008 Posted November 29, 2008 My S9N plans came with a sail plan and mast specs. The mast for a 9 is 15' 4", so that would seem to make 12' a bit short for a 10 Quote
lbrewer Posted November 29, 2008 Author Posted November 29, 2008 The mast 14' 6" with the extension, but that would still put me a bit short. On the B&B website it lists the 9N as having a 45 sq ft sail and the 10N as having 55 sq ft., so I could be way off. It will work as it is for the sail that I have, but I will likely be underpowered at 41 sq ft. Quote
Hirilonde Posted November 30, 2008 Posted November 30, 2008 When I started my Spindrift I was planning on using a Dyer rig and sail that I acquired for free. I figured it was a good way to save money. It would have saved money, but have surely created a less than balanced rig. The Spindrift rigged as Graham has designed sails wonderfully and quite fast. My suggestion is to spring for the expenses to build the rig as designed. Its easy for me to tell you to spend your money, but it really is worth it. Quote
lbrewer Posted December 1, 2008 Author Posted December 1, 2008 I don't mind spending the money for the sail if I need to. I'm kinda getting attached to this one . I'll probably end up doing that anyway because I know the one I have is smaller than I can get away with. I would like to know the correct height for the mast. I would prefer to build it out of wood. I guess I'll call tomorrow and see if its possible that the sailplan was maybe omitted in my plan set. Larry Quote
Hirilonde Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 I guess I'll call tomorrow and see if its possible that the sailplan was maybe omitted in my plan set. I would, I bet it was simply forgotten in your set. Graham's plans are quite complete, but accidental omissions have been known to occur : Quote
Steve Day Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Larry, I've been out of town delivering a J-28 from St Petersburg to Point Clear last week. I will check my boat later today and give you the length/height. We could also arrange to meet for you to take more thorough measurements of my rig, if you would like. Steve Quote
Greg Luckett Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Why not give Graham a call and ask his opinion. He might (probably) will have some good suggestions. Quote
lbrewer Posted December 3, 2008 Author Posted December 3, 2008 I had meant to call him during the daytime today Greg, and I forgot :-[. I did email him a couple of nights ago and asked if I might be missing a page in the plans. I'd still like to hear any suggestions he may offer. I'll probably end up just getting the correct sail for it and building a new mast or modifying the existing one to the necessary height. Thanks Steve, I may take you up on the offer. Larry Quote
Greg Luckett Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Try calling in the evening. Carla can tell you if he is available, and she will not answer if they are not taking calls. Sometimes Graham even answers the phone, but Carla usually handles the calls I have made. They are outstanding folks who I hope to meet in person some day. Quote
Steve Day Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Larry, I finally got next to the Spindrift yesterday and measured the following: Distance from tip of mast to the gooseneck - 13' 10" Distance from the tip to the foot of the mast - 16' 9" I hope that helps, Steve Quote
lbrewer Posted December 6, 2008 Author Posted December 6, 2008 Thanks Steve, That is exactly the information I needed! I had already built an extension for my mast but it's still not going to be tall enough. I'll probably either build an appropriate extension, or more likely, another mast. I have the outside of the hull painted with 3 coats of Whidbey White over 4 coats of S3 Yacht Primer (I botched the first coat of primer with the HVLP and had to sand most of it off). The interior surfaces have 2 coats of primer. The Bristol finish I ordered finally arrived and I've been coating the removable bright stuff: Quote
Hirilonde Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 The Bristol finish I ordered finally arrived and I've been coating the removable bright stuff: I still don't know how Bristol Finish gets away with the low key warning on the package. Like solvent based LPUs they use isocyanates to achieve their gloss. The only totally effective way to avoid breathing these is with supplied air. There is no organic vapor cartridge that works on them. They are odorless, so using a mask that eliminates the smell means nothing accept that the other harmful chemicals are being filtered out. The directions speak of occasional use being acceptable. My feelings, in liu of how little is really known for sure is that something bad is bad. If a chemical is a known carcinogen and causes brain damage (isocyanates are both) then limited exposure is a vague and dangerous statement. I hope people are using this stuff outside at the least. I won't touch the stuff myself without a proper supplied air set up. Quote
lbrewer Posted December 7, 2008 Author Posted December 7, 2008 Dave, It was rather cold out so I decided to finish the removable parts inside. Bad move.....i started in the room that has my dog kennels, I had to move my dogs outside for about four hours. I ended up moving the parts outside so we could stay inside. The stuff is very volatile....fumes are bad. Indoors with bristol is more than very obviously a no no. Live and learn. 'What I've done so far looks good though. Quote
Steve Day Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Larry, Glad I could help. It appears you are making good progress. The brightwork looks good from this vantage point. Sorry about the Bristol being so difficult to handle. Maybe that's why I've never used the stuff. I'm looking forward to the launching and being able to sail with another Spindrift from time-to-time. Do you intend to take it over to the Perdido Wooden Boat Show at Pirate's Cove? Steve Quote
lbrewer Posted December 8, 2008 Author Posted December 8, 2008 Do you intend to take it over to the Perdido Wooden Boat Show at Pirate's Cove? That would be kinda like showing off wouldn't it? I always like to attend when I can. Maybe the spindrift should still be shiny enough to bring it. I'll probably do the first splash right around the bend from there at a friends house on Terry Cove. Larry Quote
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