paint question

[mustangermatt]

Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with Pettit easypoxy paint?

Thanks

[Charlie Jones]

Yep That's what I had on the decks of my tri when I was cruising. After three hard years of living aboard, and full time cruising for two of those years, we had to repaint the decks. Sigh

I had several quarts left over and after they sat unopened for close to 20 years, my wife found them and we used it on my Minipaw dinghy. That was two years ago- Here's the dink when my wife dragged it into the living room to varnish the rubrails.

I like the paint and would (will) use it again.

[mustangermatt]

Great, I think it's what I will use.

Thanks

[Brent]

I have used easypoxy on a 20 footer. When properly thinned it gave a reasonably good finished surface - not real hard to do. The boat had to be repainted about every two years due to chaulking of the surface. The paint also easily abbraided on contact with stuff...like the dock. Touch up is easy.

This is good paint for the grade of finish somewhere between fine gloss living room furniture grade and rough work boat grade.

[John Yow]

would it also be true with Easypoxy that it could be painted directly onto the epoxied surface, ie not need a barrier coat?

John

CS17#102

[mustangermatt]

Ok, maybe not such a good idea. I bought two quarts of the stuff and tried some on the the centerboard trunk. I painted inside the shop at 75 degrees, and three days later it hasn't cured. I took it back to Fisheries supply where I got it and they said the humidity might have been too high. I live in the Pacific Northwest, of course the humidity is high :x Why sell a paint to people who live near large masses of water when the paint won't dry in a humid environment? Doesn't seem like much of a marine paint to me. At least I got my money back, but now I have to clean this mess off the centerboard trunk.

I think I will stick with the interlux enamel we always painted the tugs with, at least I know that will dry in a humid environment, and stick to anything to boot.

[Charlie Jones]

John- yes you can use it straight over well sanded epoxy. That's what our dinghy has. You can use most paints right over a well cured, well sanded epoxy according to the Gougeons.

Matt- the humidity there can't be any worse than here on the Texas gulf coast- we swim in it all year long.

I'd suspect you had some other reson for the paint not hardening. There IS a problem with some paints over some epoxys, I know. That may be one of them. But on the dink, it's 20+ year old Easypoxy over WEST SYS epoxy and worked just fine. Is it possible you had some amine blush on the inside of the trunk? That would sure keep the paint from curing.

[Bill Heil]

I used to use easypoxy a lot on my trimaran and it worked well, used to repaint every 5 years. what I liked about it was that it didn't build up a big film thickness, so a good sanding was all it needed before a recoat. On my CS17 i used awlgrip, the advantage being its toughness. good stuff.

[mustangermatt]

I agree that humidity wasn't the problem. We had a high pressure front which around here means dry air and sunshine. I had sanded the surface with 180 then 400 so I don't think blush was a problem. I am using System three and have never found ANY blush yet.

I thought I might have put it on too thick, but when I scraped it off tonight I ruled that out. I could see through to the epoxy in places, still gooey four days later. I guess it is possible I got a bad batch, but I'm sure not going to try another can!

I have painted a lot of boats and never saw anything like this. I have mostly used interlux products in the past, enamel and interthane two part. The most frustrating part is having to clean up the mess :-)

[Designer]

It seems to me that the Easypoxy has been effected by uncured amines in the epoxy. Did the paint cure on the stirring stick? I have had problems with Systems Three and one part paints before. You may have to paint the boat with a two part epoxy primer first and then you can use your paint of choice.

[mustangermatt]

And at this point my paint of choice is going to be the oil based enamel I am familiar with, the type that has never left a sticky gooey mess on my boat.

Didn't dry on the stick either.