Scott Dufour Posted December 13, 2003 Posted December 13, 2003 When I read Wade's posting earlier this week, and thebob's reply, I thought we all might be running parallel lives. I'm just finishing up my first boat, a D4 from the free plans fame, as a practice for the "real thing". I pondered for quite a while what boat to make. After catching mission creep, sliding from the 12 foot Spindrift, to the anticipated CS15 to the proven CS17, I figured I better order some plans in a hurry before I found myself building a 54 footer. I decided to go with the CS17. Yesterday I was a bit surprised to find that I, too, had received Hull #109. Our parallel lives seem to be running very close, indeed. I think I'll contact Graham and find out which one I really have. In any case, the plans are beautiful, and I have to admit I oscillate rapidly between excitement and intimidation when I think about taking on such a large project. In the meantime, maybe I should use the D4 to actually learn to sail... Quote
thebob Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 When I read Wade's posting earlier this week' date=' and thebob's reply, I thought we all might be running parallel lives. I'm just finishing up my first boat, a D4 from the free plans fame, as a practice for the "real thing". I pondered for quite a while what boat to make. After catching mission creep, sliding from the 12 foot Spindrift, to the anticipated CS15 to the proven CS17, I figured I better order some plans in a hurry before I found myself building a 54 footer. I decided to go with the CS17. Yesterday I was a bit surprised to find that I, too, had received Hull #109. Our parallel lives seem to be running very close, indeed. I think I'll contact Graham and find out which one I really have.In any case, the plans are beautiful, and I have to admit I oscillate rapidly between excitement and intimidation when I think about taking on such a large project. In the meantime, maybe I should use the D4 to actually learn to sail...[/quote'] There do seem to be a few parallels, I can't sail either, and so I built the D5 to remedy that. The D5 is the same as the D4 except for the centerboard/seat. Although the dimensions given in the Bateau plans for this area did not match up. I was ready to build the Expedition Ketch from Bateau, and asked about it's seaworthiness on their forum, I was pointed toward the "great race" piece as a pointer towards these kind of boats and of course from then there on there was no alternative but a CS17. I was happy to get #103, 3 is my lucky number. amusing that there are 2 #109's I think you are #109 1/2 I don't know if you got the CD but it is perfect for all those little niggles, and really helps you visualize the build process. Search this forum there is a lot of invaluable info here, and some great people on this list. Anyway great choice of boats Scott, which deck layout are you thinking of. I like the rear deck rather than the rear seat plan. The idea on the CS15 to hide an outboard under the rear deck is cool, but I think mine is going to be rowed when the wind dies. Well this time next week I expect to be sailing my D5 in the Tannon Straight, and preparing to start #103 in February. [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
capt jake Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 You folks should contact Graham and have the numbers sorted out. It may help protect you but will definitely help protect his interests. They do keep record of each set of plans an who they were originally sold to. Quote
Guest Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 I bet the plans were shipped the same day. Or could it be a little dislexic, maybe 6 for a nine?? This will be fixed in a couple of days. Tommorrow I will jingle locally and alert him of this major mishap. :wink: I know, you guys are located in different time zones and days. So axtually, one of you are older than the other, but born on the same day. Thats it. Quote
thebob Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 You folks should contact Graham and have the numbers sorted out. It may help protect you but will definitely help protect his interests.They do keep record of each set of plans an who they were originally sold to. I'm sure Graham will sort this out, but I kind of like this kind of feature. I lets you know that you are dealing with real people rather than machines. #109 1/2, #109b #109 the 2nd, The Core Sound previously known as #109. #109 v.01. The possibilities are endless. Personality, thats what ist's got. Quote
Wade Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 The parallels are amazing! :shock: Don't tell me. You're a 51 year old, divorced, CPA. That would be scary! :shock: I'm sure they will sort it out directly. Wade [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
Designer Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 :oops: Oh, ouch - Mud on my Face! Mea culpa twice over. Oh yes, you are dealing with VERY fallible humans here...I being usually the most fallible. No excuses, just my humanity - groan :cry: what a heavy load to bear. The scoop! Scott, your 109 is actually 110 :wink: . Well I've at least given you folks a lovely chance to see our imperfections. Would you believe me if I said this was devious plan? Boo you are on Candid Camera? No? Oh well.... 8) With many apologies! and still :oops: Carla (definately NOT Graham) Quote
Wade Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 Isn't it great to deal with humans! Wade Quote
capt jake Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 Isn't it great to deal with humans! All too true!! It is something that is hard to find these days!! Carla, I am sure nobody is offended, and nobody is upset either. HAve a great day! Quote
Scott Dufour Posted December 14, 2003 Author Posted December 14, 2003 Ah, Graham. 110 is perfect. Think of all the time I'll save when I paint the number on the hull. Now I can avoid the complicated curve of a nine and stick to the straight, minimalistic lines of the binary number system. Thanks for clearing it up. By the way, Wade, we can rest easy. I'm a 32 year old High School Science teacher, two kids, and for the moment, (until she realizes actually how big 17 feet worth of boat is), happily married. I have to tell you all how I got into this, though. I'm in the Air National Guard, and a few months ago I found myself deployed to an undisclosed location somewhere in the high Iraqi desert working 18 hour days for several months straight supervising the combat launch and recovery of A-10 Warthogs for Operation Iraqi Freedom. Let me tell you, there's nothing like war in the desert to make a man long for peace on the ocean. There's also nothing like blowing things up to make man want to start putting things together. A little romantic, perhaps, but what the hell. I've been looking forward to ordering these plans and starting this boat for months, but it truly seems like many years. And I think I like the look of the aft deck best. Pros and cons anyone? Quote
Scott Dufour Posted December 14, 2003 Author Posted December 14, 2003 thebob, As I write this we are being hammered with about 5 inches of snow to be followed by sleet and freezing rain. I know I was supposed to be looking at the D5 in your picture, but I couldn't take my eyes off the trees with leaves... I think Long Island Sound has actually started to freeze over already. Enjoy the maiden voyage. Quote
Designer Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 Oh Scott, I'm sooo glad you can see the absolute beauty of the juxtaposition of the straight 1s and the perfect symmetry of the 0. You can, indeed, build the whole boat around such a wonderful binary number! While here, let me just thank you for your service in that cold windy place! And do enjoy the boat building - and try to restrain your urge to blow it up after it is done. I think Warthog would be a cute name for a boat. and much shorter to paint on the transome than "the boat previously know as 109". Carla Quote
Wade Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 So. With the bestowing of Hull #110 the parallel dimension has been broken. Though I did see and A-10 once while paddling Turkey Creek on Eglin AFB. :shock: Oh, well. Guess I'll have to live with all the difficult straight lines, curves and oblique circles of the designation 109. Later, Wade Quote
Guest Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 Sounds like we got a lotta building ahead of us for the winter season. Maybe you need an ice boat, Scott, too. :wink: Thank you for your service. In Grahamns absence, there are some reasonably well versed fellows around here, that can point you towards fitting and glass technigues, along with time to moan for a spell. Some of these fellows go to the extreme of some of their projects. But don't let that bother you when it comes to doing it your way. These guys are only a click away from opinions, lots of them. Wade, looking foward to seeing your boat go together. If you guys are not equipped with digitized imaging, part of your initial order of supplies for this project is a stop by the local camera department. We require photos for detailed responses. :wink: Some of us are old and don't do well with brain function vision. Quote
thebob Posted December 15, 2003 Posted December 15, 2003 thebob' date='As I write this we are being hammered with about 5 inches of snow to be followed by sleet and freezing rain. I know I was supposed to be looking at the D5 in your picture, but I couldn't take my eyes off the trees with leaves... I think Long Island Sound has actually started to freeze over already. Enjoy the maiden voyage.[/quote'] I'm in central Japan until Sat and we have had morning frost here for a couple of weeks. With wind chill its been below freezing constantly, it is really windy here. But on Sat I fly back to paradise. 18 days in shorts, t-shirt and sandals. The really cruel part is that I have to come back for 3 weeks in Jan but then I'll have 10 weeks away to build my ketch. Thanks Scot for the job you did in Iraq, I'm with my Prime Minister on this one. (I'm British). I know a lot of people disagree, but that's what we are fighting for isn't it, the right to dissagree. Lots of Core Sounds going together here. I also like the rear deck, good for a following sea, and somewhere to keep a stern anchor, I'll probabably end up putting some foam in there. Although the rear seat option would give more space, lighter weight, and possibly more simple construction. I'm thinking of a slightly higher coaming than most I've seen. If you are feeling cold, here is a picture of me and my girlfriend in our beach house. [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
Scott Church Posted December 15, 2003 Posted December 15, 2003 Taking this numerology thing a step further, Scott spelled backwards kinda looks like 110 CS (CS#110). Oh, by the way, my name is Scott and I sail hull #11. Hmmm. Quote
thebob Posted December 15, 2003 Posted December 15, 2003 If some entity is trying to send a message, I cant think of a more spiritual medium than a Core Sound. Quote
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