MisterMoon

You don't need no stinkin' practice! Or at least thats what I thought before the EC. There's some very embarassing video out there of me struggling to get launched at the start of this year's event. I'll be practicing before next year's event. Having a boat that weighs some 250lbs less is going to be nice as well.

Got the boat out today to test the centerboard. No vibration at all now. Now on to tidying up the rigging...

Inquiring minds want to know: Did you get out yesterday? We wound up taking the big boat out for a while yesterday. It looked to be a good sailing day on Allatoona. I've got finish putting the CB back in the CS17 before I can get it out again.

SHould I taper the bottom edge?

You're going to give people the wrong impression about me! Here it is now, a little better. I think I'm going to have to go back and straighten up that trailing edge, though.

Turns out you can pull the CB from the top of the trunk. And I think I found my vibration problem. The board was only barely faired. The photo is of the trailing edge. The trailing edge is about 1" thick. The leading edge isn't much better. I'm about to have it pay a visit to my power planer.

Ok, it looks like the hull number for the Core Sound series is assigned when the plan set is sold. My boat is #172. Knowing how it is with buying plans (I've got a drawer full of them myself), how many CS17s and CS20s are there? Is there a registry somewhere listing the completed boats?

I appreciate the tips, Tom. I'll be working on it over the next couple of weeks. Our mutual friend Oyster warned me I should expect to get beat up on this forum about having a motor on my boat. LOL. While it was nice to have the motor yesterday, I found myself thinking I could do without all the weight and complications of the damn thing! I may change my mind on the some stinking hot variable light air day, but there's certainly no reason to have one a boat like this that sails so well if you've got any wind at all. My objective for this boat is and remains another Everglades Challenge bid. No motors on that trip to be sure! I still think Oyster would be a good companion for the EC, but alas I can't talk him into it! (Now, how long before my phone starts ringing so Mr. Hard Shell can tell me I'm crazy? )

Thanks for all the ideas. Your boat is almost a carbon copy of mine. Do you find that your motor mount keeps the tilted up motor out of the way of the mizzen sheets? My boat has the OB mounted on the transom which gets in the way of the as designed mizzen sheeting arrangement. The builder of my boat came up with an alternative system that frankly sucks. I want to go back to the as-designed rigging but I've got to get the motor out of the way first.

In my case the vibration is worse upwind than down. Because of this, I think it's a vortex shedding phenonemon. The top of the board wasn't visibly moving when sailing, so I don't think it's slop in the trunk.

I'm hoping the CB vibration is just a case of the trailing edge either too sharp or just rounded off. I'll keep the gasket idea in mind however. I've got some nice hypalon fabric that woud be perfect for this application provided I can figure out the correct glue to use that will stick to both the fabric and the hull. That could be a little tricky. Getting the board out with the boat on the trailer is a bit of a pain, any advice?

I just got in from taking my new to me CS17 PLUFF MUD out for our first sail. Conditions were pretty good, about 10-12 knots from the NW. First tried a run under power only. My boat has a too large 6HP outboard. I really expected more speed under power, but only saw about 6 knots before my GPS died. We set full main and mizzen while I tried to familarize myself with the boat. This was my first experience with cat ketch, so I was taking it easy. I'd read to always ease the main first if you are overpowered and this proved to work very well. Playing main upwind really seemed to pay dividends. Ease the main in a puff and the boat flattens out and just keeps on driving to windward. Nice. No GPS, but she seemed fast enough. Found a couple of issues with my boat. First is the centerboard vibrates like crazy above about 5 knots so. THe vibration is so bad, it feels like a lot of drag is being created and slows the boat down. Hopefully a pass or two with block planeo n trailing edge of the CB will fix this. The other issue is the snotters. I don't think mine are rigged correctly. There's a lot of friction and chafe there and I don't feel good about them at all. Other things that need fixing is the non-standard rigging on the mizzen sheet and replace the all lines but the sheets. Everything else is just junk. I really like the boat, though. SHe's very easy to sail and I think we're going to have a lot fun.

Here's the only one I've got online. I'll try get some later and post them.

Boat was built by a retired engineer in Georgetown, SC in 2007. It's all occume plywood, aluminum masts, fitted with the high roach battened racing sails. She's built and rigged to plan almost exactly. He bought all the sailing hardware from Graham per the plans. The builder opted for the lower rear deck instead of the deeper lazarette. The only significant devation from the plans was omission of the foredeck hatch. The area under the foredeck is accessible through a plastic hatch in the forward bulkhead. I'm not crazy about this arrangement, however. I may build a hatch at some point. Boat's name is PLUFF MUD. I'm not going to change names unless it's revealed to me through some mystical insight she was improperly named to begin with. She's got oars and a brand new motor. The motor, a 6 HP Tohatsu 4-stroke, is WAAAYYY too big for this boat. I'm looking to trade it for a 2 hp Honda or equivalent. Along with the boat, I got all the plans, a detailed accounting of all the of lumber, hardware, glue, paint, fastener, line, and tool purchased to build the boat along with all the reciepts. He sold it for health reasons, citing his inability to use the boat very much. She's a very nice boat and very lighly used since launching. I'm obviously very excited about this boat and can't wait to get some miles under her keel.

Thanks Doug. Now that Chief has come down again against carrying boats to the beach, I'm glad I have a lighter boat for next year. That danged Daysailer nearly killed me getting it off the beach. I don't know if I could have got her up the beach by myself. Thinking about the NCC. Timing is bad for me, though. I'll probably have to do some kind of solo camp-cruising in FL for a shakedown instead.

I purchased CS17 #172 yesterday. Great boat, beautifully put together by a meticulous builder. Can't wait to start sailing her!

I'm looking for a CS17 or CS20. My EC experience this year pointed out the need for a boat that takes better care of its skipper. Contact me at mistermoon@mindspring.com if you know of any coming market.

Was this the thing the clamp fell off of when you called me on Saturday? Gonna be another nice one Mike.

I didn't take many pictures but I'll share what I have. Keith McLean and daughter from Covington, GA in his Tech dinghy. Keith is nearly done with his Stevenson Vacationer. Bud Wilson from Jasper, TN smoked this pork shoulder all day Saturday. It was wonderful! The site was great for the little kids with lots of shallow water for swimming. The water was not yet "adult warm" as I discovered when I dove off of my boat later in the afternoon. Kids don't seem to mind though... Rhett Davis from near Darien, GA brought his AF4 JUBAL EDISTO. Going out in it really made me miss mine. Rhett and his freind Diane spent the night at anchor during the thunderstorms Saturday night. They claimed to have stayed dry! The less said abou t the boat in the background, the better! Here we have a view down the beach. In the foreground is one of my Blackberry dories, built by Ed Jones of Lawrenceville, GA. Next is a Michalak PIRAGUA 18, built by Rhett Davis. Behind it is my old "Mean Mean Green Green" $25 OCA canoe and a plywood catamaran by Stevenson Projects brought by Bud Wilson. Behind it is Bud's friend Bennie's johnboat. The cat was a hoot to sail, if a bit wet! Here Rhett Davis tries out Jeff 'Ironmule' Smith's bateau and the Reelfoot oars. Jeff explains his boat to a couple of campers whose curiosity got the best of them and the walked over to see what was going on. All in all it was a pretty good time. We'll do it again next year. Mark your calendars for the weekend after Mother's day 2006, same place!

It's coming soon. See y'all next weekend. My cell number is 770-595-2311 if you have questions.

The details can be found in this thread: http://www.messing-about.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3273

Oh yes, I will be there! As for who's coming, I don't know for sure. This would be a good time to take a roll call among this group. Raise your hands if you are attending!

I frequently use Orbitz to see who flys the route or at least offers the best connections. I then go to the various airline sites suggested by Orbtz to see what those same airlines charge if you buy direct from them. Often as not, it's cheaper to get the tix from an airline directly. Orbitz/Expedia/Travelocity all charge anywhere from $5-$15 service fees.

...tell your sister to postpone the wedding! :wink: I just found out that I may only be getting back from a meeting in Europe on that Friday, so I may well be fried when I arrive later that night. I'm trying to get the meeting moved, 'cuz this is set stone! It's not too late to sign up, so make your plans today.

The picture was taken few yards from what will be the epicenter of the event. Now, don't you want to come? For those who don't want to camp, do a hotel search on Canton, GA. I'll put together a website maybe tomorrow with directions, CG fees, launching particulars and other valuable information.