Bailer questions

[PinoyPiper]

Hi all,

After a capsize in my nesting spindrift during a race last week. I realized that I really need a self bailer. It has been suggested for nesters that two bailers be installed because of the bulkhead.

I was wondering if it would be possible instead to install the bailer only in the forward section and put in a flow through hole in the bulkhead so water that has collected in the aft section can drain forward? Initially I was thinking of doing it the other way around (bailer in the aft section) but the bailer might interfere when the boat is nested, that, and I think it looks neater that way.

The boat performed well even with all the water in it, I was actually able to finish the race even while partially swampped. came in second btw, could have been first but... 

here's a picture of what it looks like sailing with 5 inches of water in the boat.

Cheers/Roy

[Garry]

Two bailers would be the way to go. When the two pieces are nested, you will see that there is a lot of room between the two sections. You may not get the stern bailer right at the low point but you will be able to get it close enough to do a lot of good.

Cut a 2x4 to the shape of the interior part of the bailer and try it in different locations when fitting the bow section into the stern. You will find a good spot for it probably off to one side about a quarter of the way back from the bulkhead. It will work better on one tack but it will still get the bulk of the water out.

[PinoyPiper]

how would you keep the water outside the boat from coming in that hole?  You would have to have the hole down low, and that would be below waterline.

I was thinking of inserting a rubber hose through the hole (has to be tight) and some type of gasket seal around the holes between the bulkheads.

[PinoyPiper]

there you go., thanks ray.

how robust are those things anyways? what would happen if someone accidentally steps on one or falls on one? will the bailer break or will person get lacerations??? , those metal protrusions look sharp.

roy

[Tom Lathrop]

The interhull drain sounds like a lot more work and risk (of leaking or not working properly) than adding another bailer.  Anderson bailers are a lot tougher than bare feet but would not be difficult to shield with a protective cover if you think it's a problem.

[Hirilonde]

I haven't installed any bailers yet in my S9N, but I have gone through the assembly routine several times.  I would be very leary of anything that might make this process more tedious or reduced its integrity when assembled.  I will be doing 2 bailers.  I used Garry's assembly hardware, and having no leaks before, during or after assembly of the halves is quite pleasant. 

Now if someone can design a nesting dinghy with side seats/tanks, that would really be something

[Steve Day]

Hey Dave,

I noticed the missing side seats on my 10N the first time I sailed it and put together this solution. This is a lot better than putting my butt on the gunwhale.

It takes a few more minutes when rigging the boat and there are a couple more pieces to stow when the boat is disassembled, but it is worth the effort. My butt thanks me every time I sail the boat.

BTW, you can see the bailer in the after hull in the first picture.

Steve

[Hirilonde]

Looks like a very workable solution Steve, I like it.  I was more interested in the flotation and reduction in water left in the hull after righting that side tanks provide, but seats are probably all one can achieve with the nesting version.  Thanks for the pics.