tdrown Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Look's great! You did an excellent job on her. I'm sure she'll be appreciated and well used. Quote
Frank Hagan Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Three in the cockpit, eh? Did that feel crowded? I've found that's about the maximum in my Weekender ... I prefer just two of us, but one can sit on the companion way seat facing forward and there's enough room. Quote
BobSmalser Posted July 9, 2004 Author Posted July 9, 2004 This little Hartley is all cockpit and no cabin....4 can probably sail there fairly comfortably if they all take a role handling the lines, as they'd be in the helmsman's way only in doing the sheets. Two people 6' tall can stretch out in the cuddy...if they don't mind their toes touching up in the forepeak. No place you want to work either painting, glazing, building shelves, or stringing wire, tho...glad that's over. Bump. Ouch. Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Very nice! They should really enjoy it. A nice addition to the Northwests small boats. Quote
Steve Day Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Bob, What a great looking boat! It's really good to see the Hartley resurrected and made into such a nice looking craft. You really made her look good. I'm sure she will be a part of that family for while. Thanks for taking us through the process. It was fascinating. Makes me wish I still had my 18' Hartley. Steve Quote
Steve Day Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Bob, Is that a Seagull you have on "Peanut?" Steve Quote
Dave R1 Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Great job, Bob. You do wonderful work. It's great to see the end result, too. Thanks for sharing. Quote
BobSmalser Posted July 9, 2004 Author Posted July 9, 2004 Bob' date='Is that a Seagull you have on "Peanut?" Steve[/quote'] I rehabbed the original 1969 3hp Fixed Century Plus Mk II Seagull...and kinda regret it. No clutch, no way to reverse it = real hard to handle the boat in the marina. Plus the float bowl design with an overflow is simple and reliable, but that means every time you raise the motor, the float bowl spills...then you fill it again using the overflow button before starting....one big fuel slick following you and no way to change it. The reason they survive so long is that 1:10 oil/fuel ratio (as opposed to 1:50 in a modern 2-stroke) and 140wt gearbox oil....so much smoking, seeping oil in there, rust is at a real disadvantage. I don't think the environmental-planner daughter-in-law will keep it very long....look for it on Ebay....and perhaps a 4-stroke Honda on the boat. Rather than buy her a new motor....I made her the oars. :wink: Quote
Frank Hagan Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 You know what they say about Seagull outboards: there's only one moving part. The rower! I know they do last forever, but man, they also smoke! Now I know why. I have a 3.5 hp Gamefisher from Sears I received free, and it was worth it. Noisy little bugger, and tempermental too. Those that know where my boat's name, "Aslan", comes from, and know the author's other works, might be amused that I named the outboard "Screwtape". Quote
Johannah Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 But Frank, that would make you the nephew. Bob, that sweet little boat is some fine wedding present. Have your kids received it or gone out on it yet?? If your daughter-in-law gets fussed about the motor, just point out the fine reuse of materials in boat and even motor. Follows the best environmental adage ever: use it up; wear it out; make it do or do without. Yup. Quote
BobSmalser Posted July 9, 2004 Author Posted July 9, 2004 ...daughter-in-law gets fussed about the motor... She won't...and hasn't....but I know her...it will just quietly get replaced. They look cool and are dead simple...and reliable if you get one with a good magneto and keep the points clean (remove the pull cord cover...a wrench and a band clamp work dandy...and clean by rubbing a matchbook cover in between)... ...but the truly are filthy, noisy little beasts. Quote
Steve Day Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 The Seagull that I had on the 18' Hartley was the 5 hp with the clutched drive. You had two positions, neutral and forward. That, at least gives you the opportunity to get the motor warmed up before getting under way. Also you could shift into and out of gear in the marina. I always had a problem with having to re-start the motor if you undershot the dock and needed more power. (Oars make sense in that context.) I used the thing for quite a while and found it to be very simple and reliable. It was easy to mix the oil, too. 1 beer can of oil to a gallon of gas. Wow, that's a lot! The traveling oil sheen was not the proper thing to have, but it came with the territory. If I had had more money at the time, I would have purchased something a lot better and more "green," but that was all I could get at the time. The two cycle motors available in 1976 weren't a whole lot better than the Seagull when you look back from today. Thanks for facilitating that trip down memory lane. Steve Quote
Craig Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 She will love the Honda Bob. Mine is the berries! The last Seagull I was associated with was on Marty Nick's brother Quote
Frank Hagan Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 But Frank' date=' that would make you the nephew.[/quote']I hope Screwtape isn't hungry! Quote
capt jake Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 Outstanding Bob!! Outstanding! Looks like all had fun, and that is the point. You did a swell job on the re-furbishment and posting about all of the upgrades and improvements along the way. :) Great post and look forward to more in the future. Quote
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