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Hey, Don: If you decide you want a long shaft Suzuki 2.5, I've got one that I'd trade. I'm planning to be at the messabout, and could bring it. I've also got it listed for sale if you're interested. David

This is not my boat, just posting it here to make interested parties aware. Please add a comment if the boat is no longer for sale, as I don't expect to be monitoring it. https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/montpelier-core-sound-17-wooden-cat/i2Xt4R1wXWThSB9wQHLjJW

BTW, it's a 4 stroke, for those not familiar with this model. Many have been used on Core Sound 17's and 20's. While they're great motors, like most other motors in this class, they do not have a reverse gear. They have forward and neutral, and to back up, you turn the motor around 180 degrees, and put it in gear that way. I avoid going backwards, and use a paddle when I'm near the dock. They're also the lightest 4 stroke outboard available, around 30 lbs.

I've got a Suzuki 2.5 available for sale. It came with a boat that I sold. The motor looks new, was probably only used a couple of times. It's located near Warrenton, VA. I'll be in Ocracoke in September, and could bring it there, and I'll probably be at the B&B Messabout in October.

Boat has been sold.

I've bought another boat, so I'm somewhat more negotiable at this point for anyone who comes to see the boat.

I've made the price $4200 without a motor. Boat and trailer are ready to go. I'll be sailing it until it sells.

I looked into getting a reservation at the campground and it seems like they're full.

Hey, Ted: The boat is still available. Looks like I'm about 3 hours from you, about an hour north of Charlottesville. I'm retired, so my schedule can be flexible. David

I'm planning to bring the boat to the Messabout, and the boat and I will be there on Friday and Saturday. If anyone's interested in buying the boat, I'll have the paperwork with me. Also, if you're leaning towards one motor or another, let me know ahead of time, and I'll bring it. Otherwise, I'll pick one, and someone can make an offer with or without a motor. I've sold a few boats, and as long as you're asking a reasonable price, I've found that most buyers for a boat like this are not particularly price sensitive. That being said, I can be quite flexible on price this fall, but I'll make a more concentrated effort to market it during the spring and the price will be firmer.

Boat is located near Remington, VA. I sail mostly on the lower Potomac, near Coles Point, VA. There's also a reservoir near me where I occassionally sail.

The boat and trailer are located, titled and registered in Virginia. I've been sailing the boat this summer, and it's ready for sailing now. I've got several motors to choose from - 2.5 hp Suzuki, 3.5 hp Tohatsu, or electric with 100 a/h li-ion battery. The trailer (with spare tire) is in good condition and ready for a trip of any distance. I'll have it at the messabout this year. Feel free to ask any questions. I think it's worth about $5500, but I'm open to offers.

I forgot to mention that I added topping lifts to hold the sprits up when the sails are down. Both topping lifts are run from the mizzen, with the adjustment on the sprit end.

I'm getting ready to go out of town for a couple of weeks, so I was a little delayed getting the pictures. Story of the boat: The boat and trailer are titled and registered in Virginia. I believe this was built and owned by William Highsmith in 2015, who's got some videos of it on youtube. There have been several owners between me and him. I think he had an incident during the Florida Challenge that resulted in some damage to the boat, and it was later repaired by B&B. There is no evidence of prior damage. Originally, it had some brightwork, and that's been painted over, with the exception of the tilller. The tiller needs to be refinished now, and I'll try to get to that before the messabout. The prior owner painted the boat not long before I bought it. He did a thorough job, and was a little over generous with the paint in a few spots. He brushed it on, and there are brushmarks in the paint. In short, it's not a show-quality paint job. For me, that's good, as I can more easily maintain this level of finish and I don't have to worry if there's a little dock rash, as it's easy enough to brush on a little more paint. The boat is in overall good condtion. I'll try to cover the specifics of this boat in comparison to other CS17's. Rigging: The rigging is in good shape, and is pretty much to plan. The prior owner changed the sheeting for the main and mizzen, so see the pictures for the details. I would likely change this, but the next owner will be able to make that decision. The mainsail has two reefing points, but the rigging is in place for only one, so you can set the full sail with one reef ready to go, or you can start with one reef with the second reef rigged. If you want to be able to go from full sail to the second reef, then you can either go forward to change the downhaul, or rig an additional downhaul and cleat. The mizzen reefing is done right at the mizzen mast, where there's easy access to the necessary lines. Mast raising: The prior owner made an interesting device to raise the main mast. The main (with float) weights 20 lbs, and is awkward (for me, anyway) to raise by hand while standing on the foredeck. Normally, I launch the boat, then drop the mast in from the dock, which is usually a few feet higher than the foredeck, and that's the quickest way for me to do it. If I want to raise the mast on the trailer, the mast raising system is easy and safe, but takes longer than dropping the mast in the hole from the dock. The system is made from a 15' 2x3 that has a block on one end. This device weighs only 10 lbs, and is easily handled. To operate it, you raise the 2x3 to a vertical position, drop it into the slot where the trailer winch is attached, and then into the spare tire. Then, you attach a hook from the block to the mast, slightly above the center of weight of the mast, and pull the line, raising the mast into position so that it can be dropped into the hole. It could be made even easier by making the purchase on the block 2:1 and adding a camcleat instead of the existing horn cleat. This is a good solution, and could be adapted to other boats. I'd rather have a tabernacle, but adding one for the main is a piece of work. It's easy enough for me to raise the mizzen by hand, but long term I'd consider adding a tabernacle for the mizzen, which I think would be pretty easy. With a mizzen tabernacle, you could use the mizzen as a crane to raise the main mast. Motor mount: The prior owner built a motor well into the transom. I like the Suzuki 2.5 four stroke, which doesn't fit in there very well. I've got a Nissan 3.5 2 stroke that fitst better, or perhaps the best option is the pictured electric trolling motor I bought with a 100 amp hr lithium battery. I don't know what the range is with this combo, as I normally only use a motor to get into and out of the creek where I most commonly sail. Other features: Very nice oars Boarding ladder (one step) Removable split seat for a rowing position forward of the mizzen Removable full width aft seat Trailer in good condition

I'm starting work on a new build, and need to make room. I'll get some pictures up and an ad in the classified section later this week. Also, I'm planning to bring the boat to the Messabout in October. I'm thinking $5500 with trailer and choice of motors. It's ready to sail, and the trailer is ready to roll.

Hey, Don: Your boat looks great!

Hey, Don: Thanks for the info. Since all of the other battens are stitched in, I cut a couple of battens I already had to approximate length and put a couple of stitches in, just like the others. I may change it later, but I'm pretty busy this summer and plan to sail it the way it is for a while. I'm planning to come to the Messabout this fall, so I'll probably bring it. The prior owner changed the rigging layout as well, and I haven't decided yet how I'll change it - whether to return it to the original plan, or if I'll add my own thoughts. Basically, he changed the sheeting so that it runs to a central cam cleat. It works pretty well if you're sitting in the boat, but makes it hard to cleat if you're leaning out at all. The other thing he did was add a motor well. The jury is still out on that as well, as my 2.5 hp Suzuki doesn't fit very well. A good thing he did was make a little "crane" to lift the main mast while on the trailer. It's very simple, made from a single 2x4, and works great. Usually, I raise the masts by hand while I'm standing on the dock a couple of feet above the boat, but the crane is very handy if I'm launching from a different ramp. I'll get some pics next time I go out.

I've recently gotten a Core Sound 17 Mk 1 that's missing the top 2 battens on the mainsail. Are they any specifications? They were there for my first few sails - they obviously slipped out between sails. They were stitched in place, and in one case the stitch obviously came out. In the other, I guess the stitches weren't close enough together. In the meantime, I'll just use some that I've already got and cut them to approximate length. I've mostly sailed and owned multi-hulls. I'm pleasantly surprised by the performance and comfort of the Core Sound under lighter wind conditions. I haven't had it in stronger winds yet. I suspect I'll have to reef a lot earlier than I'm used to.

Hobie makes a Mirage 360 drive that rotates. I guess you can install it in whatever orientation you want and change the rotation to accomodate your preferred seating location. It kicks up as well. I've used the regular drives a lot, and I really like them, but I've always been suspicious of the fancier drives with reverse, kick up, and now rotation. The drive is over $1K, which limits my enthusiasm for just going out and getting one for experimentation.

I think there's a limited number of people who want a specific type of boat, especially wood sailboats. It can take years to find the right buyer for something out of the mainstream. Sometimes you have to decide if you have the option of hanging onto something until you find the right buyer, or if you have to sell within a specific timeframe. I used to wait, but these days, once I decide to sell something, I sell it for whatever the market will bear. Another issue is that buyers sometimes confuse price and value, and just want the lowest possible price. "I saw one once on xxx.com and it was only $2, so yours can't be worth more than that." I try not to deal with those sorts.

As long as they're fully charged, you should be ok. https://www.usbattery.com/preparing-deep-cycle-batteries-for-winter/

Beautiful job on the boat. Congrats for getting it done!

The wikipedia entry for the gunter sailing rig is pretty good, there are also some interesting videos on YouTube. For such a small rig, I suggest you pick a non-windy day and put it up in the driveway. You'll spend more time reading the articles and watching the videos that it would take to put it up and figure it out. I bought plans for a gunter rig from Duckworks. I've thought about using this rig on a small trimaran. With this rig, you could use a much shorter mast, use a pivoting mast step to get the mast up and down, and keep all of the rigging attached to the mast in order to minimize setup and launch time. https://duckworks.com/kohler-gunter-rig-plans/ They also have an article: https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/articles/gunter/index.htm

Not my boat, but I've seen it. Needs some work, but not too much. Sails are nearing end of life. Owner is a nice guy, and boat is reasonably priced. https://richmond.craigslist.org/boa/d/kinsale-sea-pearl-21/7451956640.html

Hey, Alan: I don't see the Mini Trimaran on the list. Will it be at the Messabout? Thanks