capt jake Posted December 3, 2004 Author Posted December 3, 2004 I hope to have all of the questions answered on Saturday. It is an inboard, cabin, about 1960, wood hull, 'I' think it is a classic. It was hard to tell in the dark the other night. I am told the owner has put a bundle of money into it recently. More on Saturday I hope. John Quote
Guest Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 Stop, smack yourself up side the head. Now, go take a picture or many pictures, get back to us, before you jump off the deep end. 24 foot, is not a quik refit, if rain water has been in it for a bunch of time, to break a trailer into, if not already rusted apart. Quote
Frank Hagan Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 Mike's right, don't jump into this one. If the wood is sound, it might be worth cutting up for that if nothing else. My suspicion is that if it was full of rain water, it is probably suitable only for a landfill. Quote
capt jake Posted December 4, 2004 Author Posted December 4, 2004 OK, Fianlly got ahold of him and have an appointment at about 300 PM. He didn't know a lot about it but here is the low down thus far; About 1950-1952, possibly a Constellation No drive train presently. 27-28 feet Reciepts when he bought it (about 8-10 years ago) for a total professional restoration. toalling $7500. Presently registered as home made as he never had a title and it was torn apart. (this is the strange thing to me, htough the state of WA is rather odd when it comes to registration of a boat). I have teh camera charged up and will let you know further. Oh, the trailer broke mainly because it was disigned for a 20' runabout and the weight of the boat itself was overburdening the trailer. Later. John Quote
capt jake Posted December 4, 2004 Author Posted December 4, 2004 Well, it is too big of a project for my liking. I question the repairs that we done. Later repairs were made with conventional construction materials. I do have pictures, but I don't see a need to post them at this time. It turns out to be 25 1/2' and 8' beam. Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Just wondering if it looks like this. This is a 25' Constellation The second one is a '61- 25' Cavalier. Kinda like the difference between a Ford and a Lincoln. [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
capt jake Posted December 5, 2004 Author Posted December 5, 2004 After looking at these, I really have to wonder if it truely was Chris Craft. Window profile is slightly different, the bow is different, and the forward bow section at the WL is also shaped different. Cockpit splash coaming was solid mahogany, but only extended back about half way around the cockpit. All steering was controlled from the cockpit. I couldn't find and HIN or MFG plate. I have more pictures as well. The frames were really pretty solid, just the repair work looked suspect. Even looked like the transom was replaces with construction grade plywood. [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
capt jake Posted December 5, 2004 Author Posted December 5, 2004 Two more. [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 If You would really like to have a classic Chris Craft, here is one that is looking for a good home. This is a Sea Scout's Project boat that they have lost interest in completing. It could actually be completed without a tremendous amount of effort. But then that is all relative. :roll: http://www.kelcema.org/frames.htm 1956 Chris Craft, Sedan Style, 27FT, Partially Restored. Model KL Engine and Original K (in parts), Most Original Chrome Parts (refinished), Double Axle trailer. Located at teh Port of Edmonds, WA. Contact: webmaster@kelcema.org or see www.kelcema.org for pictures and more information. Boat has excellent potential but needs a new home. Price: Make fair offer. 13 March 2004. Quote
capt jake Posted December 5, 2004 Author Posted December 5, 2004 Do you know any more about it? What is 'fair' price in you opinion?? Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 I saw the boat just after they acquired it. It was very restorable and certainly within the abilities of the Sea Scout group as long as they had some advisors that knew what they were doing. And they did. I think one of the most important things about this particular boat is that they have all the documentation and history on it from the date it was built. But even more than that. The boat is virtually intact, you wouldn't have to go looking for parts that would be near impossible to find. They have all the chrome and as I recall, nearly all of it is in great condition. AS to its value...I would get it surveyed. That will give you a true basis to go on. I wouldn't consider doing otherwise for a number of reasons. But formost is the opinion and the comparibles that you will get are well worth the price. Then consider that it is a worthwhile organization that has a lot of good community support and always needs more. They put some good effort and qualtiy of workmanship into the resoration to get it where it is. And it is in the water. Most restorations never make it that far. And most restorations of boats in this age category are hurting for repacement parts. There were a lot of these built during the model lifespan but few survive in restorable condition. When it is restored and how well it is restored will make it a very enjoyable and source of pride for another 40 years or so. I've seen some that are on the Eastern Seaboard that are Bristol and bring in the high 60,000 range with a few higher yet. I've also seen some advertized as restorable that you can get for anywhere from a few hundred dollars to several thousand, but they all need extensive work, far more than this one did when they got it. And they are nearly all far from complete. http://www.classicboat.com/classic-27Sedan-20d-1955.htm Give them a call, they may have had a survey done on it. Quote
capt jake Posted December 7, 2004 Author Posted December 7, 2004 I hope nobody is taking this the wrong way. I have been planning of building the Blue jacket for some time. When the potential to buy a wooden boat that I though was near to completion; the smart one in my family (obviously not me) that it would be prudent to look in that direction. The thought was that it could be in the water sooner and at less cost this way. I have yet to find a design that fits my desires better than the Blue Jacket. The thought of owning a 'classic' is also intriguing (the Chris) though it doesn't have several desireable features. Anyway......Tom, you never really gave you thoghts on the use of Meranti vs Okume on the BJ24. I think you said that you had some notes that you could refer to in an effort to see how much of a difference in weight there would be. Thanks! Quote
Guest Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 I am sorry, Capt. Jake. Upon looking at the pictures, [fortunately that did not break your camera], that is one scary boat in poor condition from this distance. I almost can smell the stink through the updated hardware from 3052 miles away. You maybe able to salvage some wood out of it, but geewizz, even thinking that you can do the rebuild in less time scares the heck out of me. GO by the plywood for the new boat, and get on with it. Dang it, what is in the water out there? :twisted: Quote
capt jake Posted December 7, 2004 Author Posted December 7, 2004 Dang it, what is in the water out there? Pity, isn't it? I think it was plaing ignorance on the maintenance. The boat is nearly the same model as the one Barry refers to by the Sea Scouts (which is beautiful). Quote
Craig Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Look into the Scout boat but RUN from the other one! She is long gone. Quote
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