White Hat,Frank, thems fighting words. ;}

[Guest]

To a Jarhead, call me anything but a "Sailor"

White hat - sailor

[Greg Luckett]

Hmmmm, I spent ten years in the Navy, 4 in the fleet and six in the Seabees. Sailors keep Marines around because they are dressed so pretty. Seabees liked Marines. They were a ready source of cash as well as a place to get rid of excess women and cheap booze.....

Just kidding, Oyster. :wink:

The Bees and the Marines usually looked at the rest of the Navy with disdain while sharing mutual respect. It was not uncommon to have a Seabee team operating with a Marine company or battalion and visa versa, and when I was in NMCB40 we had Marine military advisors and spent a lot of time in the Mohave prepping to hit Iran in 1979 and 1980. That is when I left the service due to family issues.

From your age, we may have served together? I operated out of Davisville, Gulfport, Coronado, and Hueneme from 74 to 80. Did a SAR beach landing while fleet with a Marine company near the DMZ in 1972 too.

This is all boat related....sort of

[Frank Hagan]

Hey, what do I know? I have this list of navy ranks, and they increment automatically, and the last thing I would want to do is to call a Marine a sailor (or, for that matter, a Navy Seal a marine!) Strike all that, I don't want to make any of you guys mad!

Port Hueneme is right next door, and in fact I was just outside the base this morning at a little hardware store that opened up on Channel Islands Blvd. They actually merged the Pt. Magu Navy Base and the Port Hueneme base a few years back. Port Hueneme is the only deep water port between LA and San Francisco, soi we think its pretty valuable to the Navy ... but then its so close to LA that they could close it easy enough.

[Charlie Jones]

LOL- Not always Greg:)

Back sometime in about 1961, a buddy of mine and I were waiting for the bus to take us back to Jacksonville from the beach. The station happened to be right across the street from a beach bar called the Sombrerro. Several ships were in in Mayport, so the liberty load was pretty heavy.

That bar had been sorta staked out by the Marines, and they were well on their way to , well, enjoying liberty. A Seabee deuce came wandering down the street, and turned into the bar. Seems like seconds later, he came flying back out the door, having been forcibly ejected. He picked himself up, dusted off his uniform and headed off down the street. Within a very few minutes, the Seabees began to congregate. BIG dudes too

When there was a goodly bunch outside on the street, THEY proceeded in the door. Very shortly the noise level increased (a bunch). Soon, Marines began coming out the door- and front glass window.

Very soon a pair of Shore Patrol showed up, asked us what was going on and we filled 'em in. The two of them sorta stood and watched for a few, til a SP truck pulled up with an officer in it. He jumped out and ordered the two SPs to "get in there and break that up!" One of the SP's handed the officer his night stick

Officer says" are you refusing to go in there?" SP says" No SIR- I'll be right behind you!!"

By this time the brawl had wound down because there were no more Marines in the place. The Seabees took up a collection, paid the bar owner for the damages to the building and from then on til the battalion left, the Seabees OWNED the Sombrerro!!

[Guest]

Greg I will send you a PM. Frank not a problem here, from me. Jus ragging you. BUt as long as Dutchrub[Zero, Wimpy. far right], garbage, lives here I don't. Don't need the grief/ Been ther done that.:x

[capt jake]

Gee! In my profession, a 'white' hat means a high ranking officer!!!

I was once named that here and took it as a compliment!

Heck, all I do is peel taters anyway! ;)

[BobSmalser]

I make a point of staying out of family squabbles between Surface Warfare types, Submariners, Airdales, Marines, SEALS and Seabees...

...but as all these colorful types graced the war-zone Camp I ran for a couple-three years as a Grunt, I could come up with some stories.

But I never honestly did figure out how the heck they train a Rifle Company on the confines of a boat.

[Greg Luckett]

I make a point of staying out of family squabbles between Surface Warfare types' date=' Submariners, Airdales, Marines, SEALS and Seabees...

...but as all these colorful types graced the war-zone Camp I ran for a couple-three years as a Grunt, I could come up with some stories.

But I never honestly did figure out how the heck they train a Rifle Company on the confines of a boat.[/quote']

Do you mean like a Marine rifle company or the Landing Party?

[BobSmalser]

Marine Rifle Company

[Greg Luckett]

Most of the Marine training is ashore, I think. I did not spend any time on transports to see what they did other than exercise, but you can bet there was on going training for military tactics and exercise while aboard ship. Ship to ship boardings would be usefull. That really means boat to ship, since our ship stood off covering us with the big guns and keeping a safe distance.

On the Boarding & Landing Party, we did practice, but also did the real McCoy so often that practice was almost moot. We constantly trained and tried to work out how to deal with different things in advance. When it hits the fan there is little time to think.

Weapons training was off the fantail for firing. Shore based ranges were used for qualifying. Flying fish made great targets too.