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Tom Lathrop

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  1. Matt, Looks like you wrapped the masts for the boom crutches. What did you use to do this? The rig looks great even though I have become partial to sprit boom rigs.
  2. Not pertinent to the CS-CK discussion but John Harris has been a long time racing Windmill sailor. I suspect that much of the heritage of his sharpie is based on his experiences with a fast narrow beam (and somewhat tippy) boat like the Windmill. Not for the inatentive skipper and he confirmed that thought some years ago. Since I am a long time Windmill sailor and have built 3 of them, I think his sharpie is a very nice boat for the intended audience.
  3. I'll be the Devil's advocate. I hate pop ups and will tolerate them only if I really need to know what is on the site. Frank has a good and very inexpensive hosting service here on messing-about. Free often costs too much.
  4. Hello David, Your boat is looking good. I've spent the last two days at Graham's doing some carpentry help on making their new van into a camping vehicle in trade for some computer boat time. The old dodge van is now gone. You will have to hurry if you plan on taking Graham for a sail on your CS when he gets there later this year. All the best, Tom Lathrop Oriental, NC
  5. I've not sailed or seen a CK17 up close but have some experince with the CS17 as well as othe B&B boats. In looking at the web info on the CK17 when it first appeared, it did look very much like the Bay River Skiff in plan and profile. The differences I noted were all in favor of the BRS which is an all round boat for sailing, powering and rowing. In being designed for all these uses, its performance as a sailboat is slightly compromised. Specifically, it can be a bit wet in waves, and has no side decks. The CK17 is even more compromised as a sailboat with a flat bottom and a daggerboard which can be a nuisance in shallow water. The BRS is still able as a serious sailing beach cruiser though, as evidenced by the couple who bought my BRS15 "Loon" and have done extensive cruises along some difficult Baja coasts in the Sea of Cortez. There are articles in MAIB and on the B&B website about these cruises. The CS series was designed to correct these sailing issues by optimizing performance as a sailing boat. As a result, it will not handle powering by motors as large as the BRS will accept. The higher sides, side decks, higher interior volume, easier bow entry sections and aft bottom design all enhance its performance as a sailing boat. Since I think the BRS is better boat than the CK17, the comparison to the CS17 is almost unfair. The CS is the better boat by a large margin.
  6. Weldwood is good glue but I have had teh same problem with old powder. Luckily, like you, I did not actually use the bad stuff. Weldwood plastic resin is not truely waterproof either and I would not use if the project is going to be in water continuously.
  7. Ok Frank, whatever works. I didn't bother to list the Grumman canoe plus a sunfish that has taken up residence. Glad this didn't come up when #1 son counted 11 boats around here.
  8. OK, Frank Here are the boats currently in the yard or at the dock. Catspaw 8 Birder (2) Bluejacket 24 13' runabout Hunter 22 I didn't build the Hunter, so you can leave that one off to get under 40. Also built a Spindrift 10, a Bay River Skiff 15 and a couple of 15 1/2 foot Windmills. Taken part in building several others but these are the ones I remember building alone.
  9. Great job Scott. I think the boat looks better in the water than it did on paper. I was surprised at the stability when stepping aboard too. Graham did a great job, as usual. Pity we had no wind at the launching ceremony but I'm sure "Raindrops" will sail well too. I heard several names bantered about. "Raindrops' came up because that is all we have seen for several days.
  10. Mike, it was just an idle jest. You did not have to name the boat that. Looks great though. You can do my next name.
  11. Yes and no John. The forward cockpit edge was done by using a piece of the same mahogany as the rest of the deck and gluing a doubler to the aft underside so that it both overlaps and hides the ply subdeck. The aft thicker part was then shaped to the curve you see. The most difficult part of this "marquetry" type work is making multiple joints on the same piece come out right and "hopefully" invisible, or as nearly so as possible.
  12. John, I rebated the carlin to let the 4mm ply base set flush. The deck planks then glue directly onto the carlin so the seam disappears. Today was the official launch and many guests got to buzz around in the creek. Graham was seen to have a large grin on his face as he thundered about. I used a small bottle of Maker's Mark bourbon christening as Scamp is no champaign boat.
  13. Greg, The BJ 27 interior is the same as the 24 with the hull being redesigned from midships to the transom. The clients wanted a large cockpit for fishing. The first boat will actually be 26.5' LOA due to a misstep in laying out the side panels. Its still a large cockpit. The builder of the second will likely add some length to the pilothouse, like maybe 6". I find the interior plenty large enough as it is and favor the smaller trailer (and storage) package over a larger boat. There is a BJ 28 on the way but it is a completely new design although the look is very similar. The forward cabin remains the same as it has worked so well for us. I consider this to be the upper limit to still be reasonably trailerable. My idea of trailerable is apparently smaller than a lot of people. We can hook up "Liz" to our V6 GMC Safari minivan and take off although we usually tow with a V8 Dodge campervan. Even the 28 will be lightweight compared to other smaller (much smaller) boats. It will likely be approximately half the weight (dry hull weight) of either the Rosborough 246 or the Devlin Scoter 25.
  14. Hey, if Graham doesn't kick me off, I'm announcing that with Frank's help, my website is up and running. Not too much there about B&B (there is some though) but thought some of you might be interested. Its at: www.bluejacketboats.com
  15. At long last I have succeeded in getting a website up and running. Its been a long haul for the computer challenged but, with some help from Frank, it is now hosted by him. You can find it at: www.bluejacketboats.com .
  16. Don't think so Dale, at least, that is not the way I rig them. I believe the taper on the sprit fits into a small loop atached to the clew or clew cringle and the sheet block also attaches to the same cringle. I use a snap shackle for the sheet. Helps keep the sail under control before and after the sprit is attached and as the sail is rolled up..
  17. I thought I said that Gordy, but you said it better and probably more understandable.
  18. I always meant to ask Sam about that but always forgot when talking to him. But hey, even old dogs can learn new tricks. LOL
  19. Ray, Jake, You might look for a speck of negrovoidium. A cubic micron should be enough to sink the boat or drop right through the bottom so a proper amount would need to be milled by laser under a microscope. It should then be attached to a small plate of that unobtainium or it would get lost. But then, maybe uranium is not the only thing that's depleted around here. I'd bet that Graham cringes at the thought that any of his small boats might need ballast. All non-moveable weight is the bane of performance in a small sailboat. That is, providing the operator is in reasonable health. If there is some handicap, some judicously placed ballast might be a reasonable addition.
  20. The Sea Pearl has very little in common with a Core Sound other than they are both cat ketches. A Sea Pearl has very little form (hull) stability while a CS has a lot. Step aboard a water ballasted Pearl without ballast in the tanks and you will see what I mean. Even fully ballasted, the Sea Pearl is not near a CS in initial stability. Even if a boat has bilge tanks, the righting moment is the same as if the water were all at the geometric center of the two tanks. Righting moment actually starts as soon as the boat is heeled, whether the ballast is lead or water. Even it you have a chunk of stuff in the bilge that is lighter than water, it adds to the righting moment when the boat heels. If it weighs more than air, its ballast. Lead or, better yet, depleted uranium is best.
  21. I had a BRS 15 that I sometimes used a 8hp outboard on and it was about the most power that it could effectively use. It ran up to about 10kts. I tried a 9.9 one time and found that it was a bit too much power. Not much more speed and a bit cranky. A BRS 17 should be OK with a 9.9. Of course, if you want it to be only a powerboat and not sail, Graham can make a minor mod to the aft bottom lines and it will take lot more power. Probably up to at least a 50 if you need to go that fast. He has the Bay River Runner 15 with these changes and it is primarily a planing boat. Depends on what you want.
  22. Graham, I think that what Joe is referring to is Devlin's video in which he puts the fiberglass sheath on BEFORE the tape is put on over the seams. I much prefer our method of doing it the other way round so that the tape edges can be faired down first before sheathing. If the tape is put on over the sheath, there is a danger of sanding through or at least into the sheath when fairng the edges..
  23. Jake, I think the Glen L Zip is the best looking of their line of runabouts. Very classy and quite a bit larger than mine although not a lot longer.
  24. Graham should chime in here but I think you are OK with the five you are thinking about if you don't go "overboard" with gear. If you have access to Messing About In Boats, a couple of recent issues has articles about two people cruising the west coast of Baja. They went for three weeks along a mostly uninhabited coast and had to carry everything, including water, fuel, food tents, etc in a Bay River Skiff 15 that I built in 1994. This is a much-much smaller and less burdensome boat than a CS20. Actually the desire for more sea keeping and carrying capacity in a drier boat than the BRS is what initiated the CS line of boats anyway.
  25. Tom Lathrop

    "Tomka Toy"

    Thanks for posting the photos Mike. I blush.
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