cs Posted October 25, 2006 Posted October 25, 2006 For those of you that don't visit the WBF here is a snapshot of the DragonShip design I've been working on. It takes elements from a Friendship Sloop, MelonSeed skif and Duckflat wherry. The LOD is a little over 21'. It has interanal ballest built into the keel and a steel centerboard (kinda like a swing keel on the Balboa 20). It has been an interesting and long design process. I've just finished the latest weight, LCG & VCG calculations and sent it off to a navel architect who is helping me out of the kindness of his heart. He will do a quick glance at my numbers and see how they work and if all is good I start the working drawings. BTW the goal of this was to get a Friendship design that had rounded chines and was bigger than the Stevenson designs but yet still be trailarable. Chad edited to add some of the stats. Okay another real quickie here. LOA = 23.806' LOD = 21.3542' LWL = 16.674' Beam = 7.576' Waterline = 1.0625' Draft (board down) = 4.0625' LCG = 9.426' VCG = 3.179' Displ = 2371 lbs Lead = 6.43% (sail CE forward of CLR by 1.0729') Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 25, 2006 Posted October 25, 2006 I have been in love with the Friendship sloops for years now. It is what first attracted me to the Stevenson designs. I will probably never build a Weekender or Vacationer due to the small interior space, but your design efforts are in line with my thinking too. Thanks for sharing and I hope your efforts become reality soon . Quote
Bud_Wilson Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 cs what ever happened to the boat you cut out of the jungle to save? Y'all Come Cap'N Bud. :?: Quote
cs Posted October 26, 2006 Author Posted October 26, 2006 Bud that would be the Balboa 20 (see photo below). It is still in the yard at the house. I've got it pretty well cleaned up and need to start some restoring. I need to get her off of the trailer and inspect the swing keel and than start painting. I still need to get the boom and the sails from the orginal owner. He has them in storage. Greg, once I get done with the detail drawings on the DragonShip I need to talk with the other two mian guys that have been involved in the design process and see what their thoughts on on selling or realeasing plans. Chad Quote
Bud_Wilson Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 Chad what is the gross weight on your Balboa? When you get ready to set her on the hard give me a ring and I will help. (or be in the damn way) 423 942 5864 Y'all Come Cap'N Bud. Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 The displacment is 1700 lbs. I'll keep you in mind when it comes off the trailer. Still trying to figure out the best way to do this. Chad Quote
barnacle5 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 I had one of those and would like another. interested in selling her? I am just up I-75 from you in KY . email me direct at barnacle@kyol.net or just call 859 336 7375 Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 Not sure if I want to sell it or not. My daughter loves it even though we haven't had it in the water. It is a well designed boat, but it isn't wood and I've got the DragonShip I hope to start building this spring. Chad Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 Here is a shaded 3d version of the DragonShip. Chad Quote
Dave R1 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 I've just finished the latest weight' date=' LCG & VCG calculations and sent it off to a [b']navel[/b] architect who is helping me out of the kindness of his heart. Chad, does Bruce know you're referring to him as a belly button architect? Sorry. I couldn't help myself. :wink: I've been following this over there. It's looking very nice. I hope you can get started building pretty soon. Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 Oops sorry. Reckon ya'll knew by now that I can't spell. BTW Michael is the architect and Bruce is the Free!Ship expert. Without either of these two this project would have never gotten off the ground. Are you still interested in doing the table of offsets for me when we are ready? Bill, I think we may have exchanged e-mails when I first was looking at the Balboa. I'll try and call you later. Chad ps Dave I wish we could have gotten a chance to hook up while I was in SD, but it just didn't seem to work out. Quote
Dave R1 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 Yeah chad, I know about the spelling. I have to stop and look up words usually to make sure I'm getting them close. Sorry, I knew it was Michael. Sure, I'll work out the offsets table for you once you get it to that point. I'll make a scaling page for you as well so you can get offsets for a scaled model at whatever scale you want. Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 I'm hopeing that this is the last round of calculations and I can start the drawings. I want to be able to include a table of offsets with the plans. In addition I'm going to do a sheet of station molds so you don't have to use the offsets. Chad Quote
barnacle5 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 keep trying on the calling. seems the phone stays tied up around here all the time. I have a lot of info on balboa 20's and can probably tell you anything you need to know like it's strengths and weaknesses . had mine up from the trailer several times and had to redo the entire front of the keel when it cracked and broke off ( it's cast iron) . but luckily the lifting cable held it until the boat reached the shore. probably was just a fluke or hit a stump? anway I'm still interested . thanks, b bill Quote
cs Posted October 27, 2006 Author Posted October 27, 2006 Bill, it will probably be later this evening or tommorow before I can call. Is there anytime that is to early or to late? Chad Quote
barnacle5 Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 I am usually around here but may be in and out this wked running the grandson back and forth and hoping to get a boat on the water too. we'll connect eventually. thanks, bill or email me directly at barnacle@kyol.net thanks, b bill Quote
kydocfrog Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Not going to be long before Bill hits the legal limit for how many boats a fellow's allowed to own... DocA Quote
barnacle5 Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 just my humble opinion. the best to all barnacle bill Quote
Greg Luckett Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Not going to be long before Bill hits the legal limit for how many boats a fellow's allowed to own... DocA Since I own 6 or 7 (does the one sunk in the creek behind the house count?) and many here own more, what is the "legal" limit. Quote
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