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  1. Graham and Alan. Based on your surprise at my breaking of slugs suggests to me you have insufficient experience for destruction testing of sail slides. Perhaps you should send samples to me, a professional destroyer of slides, for a full range of trials. Bones
  2. Two broken one undamaged to compare against.
  3. Umm. I have feelings about being the first ever to break sail slides or slugs on a Mk 17-3. I rather have the euphoria of reaching Key Largo first in class or in fact the satisfaction of simply reaching there. Sigh. Instead I will share with you what I can about the incident that forced these slides to break. But first there are a couple of comments in preparing to make a couple of comments. While seemingly unrelated, in my thoughts, they play a major part in our boat prep and handling. First, the picture Alan posted, one of my personal favorites, was staged at Pickwick Lake on the Tennessee River at the launch ramp which is well protected from wind. We had been out in gusty 20 mph winds and happy to test our reefing abilities. In the photo the mizzon has not been taken down yet. The main however had been lowered and then re-hoisted for purposes of the photo. That may distort some of the ideas about tension on the sail et.al. Second, I carry a lot of different spare parts but never considered sail slides. As an aside sail sides from West Marine come in packs of four. St. Petes only had one pack in the correct size. Bradenton had another pack or two, but we wanted enough in spares so, my crew, Capt Kyle, also stopped at Sarasota to buy enough that we could have a sufficient aboundancy. Fortunately we were planning on re-launching for the EC 2020 in Englewood. Third, last year I wanted the boat to be halfway pretty. This year I consider I am Groot as a tool. Fourth, Capt Kyle and Capt Bones both come from a line of boating experiences from trawlers to running replica ships the Nina, and the Pinta around the country and many other experiences. None however, have prepared us for anything like the CS 17 Mk3 nor the EC until 2017. Fifth, and most important to Kyle and I is the boat itself. This boat itself is like a professional third member of the crew. We can always count on Groot to be there, to guide us and protect us--as long as we do nothing grossly stupid. We have found, compared to our other experiences, this vessel requires a soft touch, a finesse of its sixteen little lines. Now let's get this part right. I am talking touch and finesse like a jockey on a 1500 lb thorough bred race horse at Church Hill Downs. A fine touch here and there to let the horse know what to do and mostly accepting feedback from the horse that tells you what it needs. My CS 17 mk3/1- Bones is like that. Easy to sail fast and safely, but it takes a bit more knowledge and an easy hand to sail it FASTER, HARDER, HIGHER. I am in the learning stages and of course, in all things boat, the more you learn the less you know. I am Groot is so strong and light it feels like I could run it into a brick wall and it would just bounce off and keep sailing. Well WTF, WE DID! We tacked it into the concrete railroad trestle house just south of the Boca Grande Bridge due to a sudden gust curling around that small channel. The crew got re-positioned in the cockpit, but Groot shook it off as to say: "Please sir, may I have some more." Here is how we broke the sail slugs. We had a hard time this year getting off the beach and into the water at the start due to inefficient rollers. Once in the water I held the boat as Capt Kyle hoisted the pre-reefed sails. The boat sails off and I am trying to get on board by holding on to the stern ladder but the boat was moving faster then I could get my foot, ladened with five layers of clothes, on the ladder. Eventually I roll, fall, ooze and snake onto the boat. Since I came over the stern, Capt Kyle slide into the crew spot in front of the mizzen and I took the helm. The start of any sailing adventure for us involves a certain amount of controlled chaos. This start may have been less controlled and more of a cluster____ then others due to the increasing wind as we got further away from the beach. Having said that we also usually get what we called "settled" within the first five minutes or so with everything under control. We are running directly downwind not caring so much the direction until we reach that mental and physical "settled" state. Part of being in our" non-settled" condition is to strap everything down pretty hard--OK, very hard especially in higher winds. Since we are going directly downwind, while getting our stuff together, the only lines not tight are the running backstays. The mizzen is out at about 90 degrees and the main is past the mast, hard on the relaxed running backstays, and spilling wind but not flopping or flogging--it is controlled. We feel settled enough to take up a proper course for the end of Anna Maria Island. We know we have to either tack all the way around or gybe to our new heading. We elect a controlled gybe since the boat handles so easily in a gybe. Our gybe consists of the crew taking a handful of sheet below the attachment on the sprit to dampen its swing across the centerline then release it into its new position in a continuation of reduced and controlled force. I throw the helm over and have no visual memory until the sail comes up hard slowing quickly on the running back stay and a startling, louder than normal, pop or snap but not as loud as a bang--but still loud. we feel the boat is not accelerating properly. We are slower. It takes a couple of minutes for us to see the loose sail at the top. We immediately start to work our way back to the beach Our progress is very slow and far off the wind. We ended about a mile west of the starting beach. I do not know the specifics but what I have read on the previous posts are quite consistent with what we felt happened. Everything was strapped down. In a few more minutes of being settled we would have been re-evaluating our line tensions as we always seem to do and no doubt made adjustments. I have learned much from this and the most obvious is to keep things moderately loose until we get our zen going. Please feel free to comment on any aspect. We are big people, we can handle the corrections and the disbelieving comments that we could be so ignorant of sailing such a wonderful vessel. I say it again. This is the best boat I have ever depended on to keep me safe. This wonderful little craft will continue to teach me how to properly sail it. I welcome all of your suggestions on how to sail my Core Sound 17 mk 3 also. Thank you B&B for this boat that seems to want to be a part of me. I have pictures of the sail slides I will try to enter in a following note if not here.
  4. This is Bones. Finished a CS 17 MK3 a year ago and interested in MF-246. We live at the north end of ms. We visit the Gulf Coast once in a while. Would be interested in looking at your build. You can email me at captbonespirate.com for more private comms.
  5. Chick,

     

    Trying to figure out the best way to tell people I am looking for a long shaft Suzuki 2-3 hp 4 stroke.  Do I simply start a new topic or is there another way?

     

    Bones

  6. Carter, What high desert is the first thing that comes to mind? I am, (was), most certainly a newbie when starting this build. Yes, we have experienced 36,000 cruising miles and I have a few hours pushing the Nina & Pina replica ships around here and there and a few more hours terrorizing Baltimore Harbor in the pirate ship Fearless, but frankly, I have no building experience nor was I prepared for the depth of this build. The motivation pure and simple was my stupidity and failure to understand the needs of my mind and body in the 2017 Everglades Challenge. I need to redeem myself by finishing the EC. That has been the relentless drive to build this boat. This boat cause it fits many of the things I wanted after learning what those needs were from sailing my wonderful Hobie Adventure Island. I have not even sailed my CS, however, I am comfortable it will best provide for my needs in a variety of challenges with a few personal beneficial modifications. Thanks for your kind words, Bones
  7. Thank you, still alot of sorting to do but will likely get sailing pictures this weekend.
  8. Chick, that whole area above the lock and dam are superior areas to cruise. We spent a month in that area during our cruise and barely scratch the surface in our exploring.
  9. Thank you. I look forward to some water time training.
  10. Chick, in part, during our 8 years of cruising we traveled from south Florida up the Tombigbee to the Tennessee river and up to the head waters at Knoxville. Later traveling the loop we did the Tennessee River again. It is all wonderful and every part of it enjoyable. If I can find my old logs about the river I will share them with you. That "if" may be a challenge. But I will look this next month. Any portion of it would be a perfect venue for your vessel. Thank you for your kind words, Bones
  11. We did not launch the boat this weekend as planned due to familial partisan politics. There would have been eight people involved and way to complicated. There is also a number of issues we found during rigging that I want to correct. Co-capt Kyle and I will drop her in the water next weekend and meanwhile I will remedy rigging and trailering concerns and non-sailing critical items like electrical, solar, installing the diesel engine a tuned exhaust system, running lights, auto anchoring system, nav computer and other challenges in prep for the EC. Also currently struggling with an acceptable system of pumping water in and out of the ballast tank. Kyle and I will be spending considerable time sailing the Pickwick Lake and extended portions of the Tennessee River this winter (bbrrr). While we do not plan capsize training until we reach Florida we are building in the related equipment such as kicking straps, individual safety lines, righting lines, boarding ladder, the mast head float and I am seriously considering an outhaul line for the center board as a means of pulling out the CB from the trunk if the boat is turtled. Our primary training goals are: #1 learning the intricacies of sailing the cat ketch vessel efficiently as possible in three months. #2 Attempt to break the boat to determine weak spots in our building, rigging and sailing skills. #3 Build our skills, strength and stamina. We will be working on the boat right up to the start of the Everglades Challenge for sure. The boat should be pretty beat up by the time we reach the starting beach. Today we rest and celebrate the proclaimed finish of the build if not the actual. Tomorrow the EC preparation push begins in earnest. Adelante. Bones Work like a captain, play like a pirate.
  12. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. I have been thankful for many blessings and people in my life and this year my thankfulness for the riches bestowed on me this last seven months seems very personal. Since May I have been sequestered in an 18'x27' barn with a 4'x8'×18" box and its contents of jiggery, boodily shapes, slivers, pallets, blocks and plates of wood and endless possibilities. Through a symphony of emotions, misteps, epithanies, druggery, mindless work that should have been minded, fourteen tons of good luck, Thanksgiving Day we pushed a boat out into the sunshine. I wept. Friday, a cold damp day made bright by our task, we rigged my boat outside the barn. Oh, to be sure it was a clusterf__k. But it was my mess and my boat! We rigged and re-rigged until one moment we all stepped back, my son, my co-capt, my wife, we had nothing at hand to do, we felt lost, for a moment, then realized the boat was ready for its first sail--the boat was rigged. In our exuberance, someone pulled in the mainsheet, somebody else the mizzen to better shake out the sails and of course it almost sail off the trailer down the lane and off the farm toward the Tennessee river. Almost but it did not. My thanks to Graham and the B&B staff and endless gratitude to my boat shepard Alan. He never faltered, never quit me. He was always there for me supporting, guiding, teaching. Alan is my hero. My thanks to Co-capt and friend, comrade-in-arms, Kyle, constantly keeping me focused and doing the best right thing and always applauding my efforts. Thanks is far too insufficient for my wife and constant gardner who cultivated me in every possible way and need through the seven months I neglected her and every house and farm chore in benefit of boat building. Capt Bones
  13. I did it the way you are thinking and being pretty simple myself I used very short screws on the retainer ring.
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