Thank you all. I am intrigued by the CNC desugns and mission but having built two plywood boats and one Gentrycustomboats.com SOF design, the SOF build process was by far more enjoyable (I really liked lashing and it is incredibly hardy) and produced a boat just as tough and useful as the other two, so I will stick with SOF. Gentry's Disko Bay design I know rolls; just not sure if the Kudzu fantails in Long Shot and baidarka will get in the way of that. I don't roll for fun, just need it for survival maybe. Thanks again for all advice.