dale

You all may already be aware of this designer, but he is new to me. Thought you may be interested to look at some of his designs. http://www.vivierboats.com/ I like Ilur and Beg-Meil. His site has lots of photos - just fun to browse too!

Congrats! What a joy. Never knew the truth of "Happiness is being a grandparent" until I actually became one. Our second is currently "in production" and due for completion in Feb.

Good thoughts Scott. Oh, don't we wish one size fits all. As I see it, I need three boats - my Mac for cruising, a lightweight rowboat (maybe a canoe) for the lake when there is no wind, and a daysailer I can keep at the house. Another possiblity for a day sailer is the Oughtred Shearwater. Nice size for me at 11'11" x 4'11". She's a beaut but no wineglass transom. I'll just keep mulling it over. Yes, I have the Glen-L gathering on my calendar. Might be a possibility. I might have some time on 9/15 as well if you wanted to hook up - though I may be getting the Mac ready for the trip. BTW: I emailed you. I was curious about what kind of plywood you use in your boats. Okoume is pretty scarce around here from what I can tell. Spruce in Peach Tree City has 1/4" and 5/32" . The 1/4" is only $20 a sheet. Does that sound right to you? Seems low from other prices I have seen on the net.

Scott, Perhaps. Here are my leading contenders at the moment (not necessarily in order of priority): 1) Acorn skiff [Oughtred] She is 11'9" with a beam of 3'11.5". Designed primarily as a pulling boat but can sail. I've ordered WB issue 56 which has a review of the boat. I would love the wineglass transom. 2) Catspaw [Herreshoff/White] She is 12'8" with a beam of 4'5.625". Should be a bit more stable than above. Transom not quite as shapely as above. 3) Christmas wherry [simpson] She is designed to sail and is buildable from 14-18' with a 4'10" beam. Again, nice salty look with handsome wineglass transom. 4) Core Sound 15 [b&B] 15' with 5'5" beam. Totally different boat but supposed to be a blast to sail. 5) C12 [bateau] 11'11" with 5'3" beam. Your mods are beautiful. 6) Navigator [Welsford] 14'9" with 5'10" beam. Quite a lot of boat in less than 15'. I'm actually leaning towards the Acorn skiff. I'm waiting on the review. Not quite ready to start anything though. Planning a sailing trip to FL in Oct.

Scott, I haven't even decided which boat I'm going to build but I'm ready to build the mast! Can't wait to try one of these birdmouth jobs. I built my last mast hollow box style. I'm sure yours will be fine.

Scott, Just curious - what kind of wood are you using?

Scott - Thanks for the tips. I think I have looked at each of those suggestions and agree there are definitely some possibilities there, especially the L 13. I'm afraid the Whitholz boat is too heavy and Fatcat is not to my liking. In addition I've looked at the Tiny Cat http://www.instantboats.com/tinycat.htm but it has no inboard seats. After seeing your C12 on TSBB and again here, I'm really interested in it. I do have your contact info and am still looking for some time to hook up. I've jotted down the dates of the Glen-L gathering and would love to go. PS: I was warned but the building bug bit me long ago. My problem is I'm not only thinking about my next build, but the next; and the next; and the .............

That lapwing sounds very interesting. He must not have added it to his website yet.

Sorry, just one more thing. I've also looked at the Penobscot 14 (http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/davis_penobscot14.html) as a possible lapstrake. Davis has a slightly different construction method using stringers. How does this boat measure up to Iain and the Ducktraps' lapstrake boats?

PS: I may not be checking back in until Monday; so I'm not ignoring anyone's response. Dale

Well, here goes. Let me give you some thoughts on the next possible build. I'm looking to build a daysailer that I will usually single-hand though I may have my wife along occasionally and in a few years hopefully my grandson (he's one right now). My budget and space are limited. I believe a 14 footer (15 max) is all I have room for. For my wife, stability and a safe "feel" will be important. For the same reason, I'm looking to build a boat that has seats and not just sitting on the rail. I do not plan to use a motor at this point so rowing will be necessary though that will not be the foremost use. The two leading contenders to satisfy my wife are the Core Sound 15 (which most if not all of you are familiar with) and the Glen-L 14 (https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=442). I would like both of these boats I believe. I'm partial to the sloop rig but maybe because I haven't sailed a cat/ketch though. I understand the concept of easier tacks with it but would two mainsheets clutter the cockpit? From my perspective, if I build something, I want to be proud of it and make it a "looker". I would love to build a lapstrake boat. If I go down to about a 12 footer, I could build the Oughtred Acorn Skiff (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=150-043) which is stated to be a rower first, a stretched ducktrap Sunshine (http://www.duck-trap.com/2002sun.html) or a Catspaw (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=400%2D012). I really like the Ducktrap Wherries (http://www.duck-trap.com/dtwplans.html) and have Walter Simmon's book about the Wherries and their differences on order. He says the Duck Trap wherry is the easiest to build of the 5 he has designed (http://www.duck-trap.com/dtwherry.html). It only has a 4' beam though and may be better suited to rowing as contrasted with his Christmas wherry which has a 4'10" beam. Not sure though. I'm guessing the CS 15 or L 14 will be more stable but like the looks of the wherries and other lapstrake boats. Your thoughts and experiences are appreciated, especially concerning the stability factor i.e. the differences between the various boats mentioned. (BTW - I did read the posts on the daysailer boat suggestions by pcuenin on the design forum)

This is my first post to this forum. I've dropped in a few times to browse, but just joined up. I've been a regular poster on the TSBB for a long time. By way of intro, I'm just past the 1/2 century mark, have been sailing since 1999. I'm on my second sailboat - a Macgregor 26C. I sail the waters of Watts Bar Lake in TN mostly. More pertinent to this board, I built my first boat last year - a modified Bateau Nutshell dinghy which I rigged for sailing: The main reason I've joined this board is to get some ideas and feedback on a possible second build. I have to run now but tonight I'll try to give you some of the things that are going through my mind. Looking forward to hanging around some. Dale