Jim Stumpf

Is anyone laminating the foredeck beam or is a sawn frame strong enough. I am using structural grade southern yellow for the framing and stringers. (Sure it is a little heavy but it is readily available and strong) Thanks in advance for any input. Jim

Thanks Ray, I will have to pick up my fairy wings at the cleaners. :grin: Jim

Leveled the cradle Squared and leveled the hull, dry fitted the inwhales to help shape the hull for tabbing http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo399.jpg[/img] Checked alignment of the center line http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo401.jpg[/img] Tabbed the hull, there should be a warning in the spec's about the need for long arms to reach that center seam http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo403.jpg[/img] That will be it for about a week or so, Jim

Thanks Graham, Sounds like a plan Jim

The lofting table became a building cradle this morning That's me just hanging around http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo393.jpg[/img] A little help from Joe, if you have been a member here for a long time you might remember Joe's Weekender from around 2003 http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo395.jpg[/img] Looking like a boat http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo396.jpg[/img] I am having a problem with the forward frame, it is forcing the hull out of fair at the chine is standing well above the sheer line, I can scribe it to fit but has anyone had a problem with this in the past, everything else fits like a glove. Thanks, Jim

The Cleveland Amateur Boat Building Society (www.cabbs.org) wanted to put on a hands on clinic on birdsmouth spar building so I offered up my shop and thought we could build the CS sprits as the demo. Any advice on materials or tapering the ends would be greatly appreciated. The member giving the seminar is experienced in this type of construction and uses in paddle construction and is a little fuzzy on the requirements for the sprits. Any and all advice is welcome. I have access to some clear red cedar and yellow pine is readily available. Spruce is probably not a choice due to availability. Any one that is in the NE Ohio area and wants to attend can be my guest on Feb 28th, just let me know that you are interested in attending so that we can throw an extra rock in the soup for lunch. Jim

I've got butterflies Bulk heads and temporary frame ready to go, I hope to be 3 d this weekend http://www.messing-about.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/Photo389.jpg[/img]

Thanks, There are some benefits to being a self employed general contractor.

Thanks Richard, You don't see the back half of the shop from the point of view of these pictures. A clean shop is a shop where no work is being done (or the sign of a sick mind) Jim

Lofting table put back together for the new build Lofting bottom panels Bottom panels glued up, blind taping all the seams at once really works, a little less epoxy the next time is called for That is PRIMROSE covered in the background, I think she is a bit jealous.

Meg is wrapping up her kayak, hopefully in time to get it to the Cleveland boat show on Wed for show setup. That is Primrose under the tarp at the side of the garage. The kayak is a PK 10 Planford Bell skin on frame 11 ft. Cedar and okume ply frames with #10 duck canvas skin. We are one step closer to starting our Core Sound 17. Dry fitted coaming and rub rails prior to varnish Meg varnishing parts Me and Mr. Cooper enjoying a hot coffee and a warm fire

Thanks Par, More fuel for the imagination, things to think about.

Drum roll please..................Parma is the correct answer. Parma is a large suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. I am about 15 or 20 minutes from Lake Erie. I would love to keep you up to date. Thanks for your guys interest in my project. Jim

I thought I might stop by and say hello. I have all my epoxy and glass and am only $40 shy of the funds needed to go pick up my plywood order (it is too far to drive for a partial order so I will have to wait another week or so). I have been selling every toy that is collecting dust in my shop to raise funds. I sleep with my plans next to the bed and have been studying them every chance that I get. Much to my surprise (not that I didn't have faith in Graham, but before I bought the plans and looked at the idea in depth I was not sold on the the whole concept) I am seeing the great ingenuity that went into the mast design; inexpensive, light, and easily obtained. I have two hang ups with the system that I am on the fence about, a sail track and anodized aluminum. Has anyone check on the feasibility of using Dywer's 2" round mast with integral track? I am guessing it maybe too light to be used unstayed but does the track add enough strength to overcome the 2" diameter, they do not advertise the wall thickness. Just wondering if anyone has check into this. Like I said I am planning on using the stock plan but I have time to kill until my ship (plywood) comes in. I can't wait to get started and I am planning on doing some of the build at the Mid America boat show here in Cleveland in January. Free heat in a Great Lakes winter is nothing to turn your nose up at. The Cleveland Amateur Boat Builders Society has been building and displaying boats at the local show for over thirty years. Meg will have her skin on frame kayak on display also if she quits doing home work and heads out to the shop to finish up the wood trim pieces. Dreaming of warmer days I just thought I would stop in and say hey, Jim

Hello Richard, Yeah I've read that one, great fun to read and Sandy is a free spirit.

Thanks for the warm welcome back, although I really didn't go anywhere I always lurk to see what everyone is up to. Here is what I was up to last winter and this summer. I finished construction on this Mirror last winter and sailed it all summer she is in a new home in WI I've been helping Meg build her sof kayak And I am currently finishing a sunfish restoration

Hello, Some of you may already know me from the main board or some of the other building forums on the web. My name is Jim Stumpf and I have built several boats including a Vacationer "Rudunyet" and the No Frills 15 "Primrose". I have been studying plans for an open cat ketch and thought that I had decided on Bateau's CK 17 but I have always had the Core Sound simmering in the back of my noodle. I even ordered the CK 17 plans and all of the epoxy and glass for it but I have decided to follow my heart and go ahead with the CS 17. So I am here to say that I will be checking in with updates and I have to say that Graham has gone above and beyond with the details in his plans, they are the best that I have seen to date and I look forward to getting started. I just sold a Mirror Dinghy that I restored last winter to raise building funds and I have spent the last couple of weekends rebuilding a mid 80's sunfish and I just put that up for sale today. As soon as the sunfish is gone I am off to pick up the merranti ply to get started. Good to see those of you I know and it is very nice to meet those of you that I do not know yet. Jim

I still check in from time to time. Vacationer RUDUNYET started in 1997 and launched in 2002. Sold to Ken C in Atlanta about two seasons ago. Currently sailing a Mirror Dinghy and my No Frills 15 PRIMROSE Jim

Hey Don, The exterior of the hull as designed not only has 10oz tape on all of the seams but is also sheathed in 10oz cloth. Some of my earlier boats were built with everything form luan to fir exterior plywood but this was to be my trophy boat so I sprung for Aquatech 6566 marine ply. The exterior was then coated with 2 coats of Interlux epoxy barrier coat primer and 4 coats of Interlux Britesides. The interior of the hull has all of the seams taped with 10 oz tape and then was primed with latex primer (the bin or maybe kilz II I don't recall) and then painted with Valspar urethane porch and deck paint. The exterior hull really is a fiberglass hull.

John Pruitt can be reached at jpnofrills@charter.net Don contacted me via email and I have made contact with him direct. If any one else is interested in Primrose or the NF 15 design I am willing to respond publicly. After two seasons I still love this design. Thanks, Jim

Hey Ed, I would be happy to share an article. How many words and how many pictures would you like. As far as wind the beauty of the sprit is that if the boat heels the sail inherently spills wind. I do have 1 reef that will take out about 10 ft and I have rigged the mast to still accept the smaller sail using the boom for the shorter sprit. The design can be found at Common Sense Designs or at least it could be when I built the boat in 02. Thanks Jim

Here is a model of the original construction 1 zillion dollars to the first to name the two designs in the back ground

Here is the orginal sail rig

It is a Bolger designed 16ft Pirogue. The sail was increased from 40 sqft to the 65 sqft shown in the pics. I have also added a swinging centerboard and kick up rudder that were not in the original plans. She is a bit tender and it takes some attention to keep her going in a stiff breeze but alot of fun.