CS15 vs CS17 cost and time?

[pcuenin]

HI

I posted in the design forum a little while ago but I will introduce myself here also. My name Is Paul and I am a College student at Clemson University in South Carolina, I plan on building a boat this summer/fall.

I have narrowed my choice down to either a CS15 or a CS17. One of the big restrictions for my project is cost... I would like to have complete boat for 2500 including tools.

I know there is only one build CS15 but for what I need and what I want to spend it seems like a more fitting boat then the CS17.

how much do you think the build time would vary between a CS15 and a CS17?

how much do you think the cost of build could vary between the CS15 and the CS17?

thanks ahead of time

[Joe Nelson CS#35]

Probably very little difference in cost for the boats...same answer for construction time. The labor is in the 300 hour range. Cost depends a lot on you...trailer new or used...cheap or expensive plywood, etc...Paint is another area you can save a lot of money on. You probably can come in at or around your budget. You can go nuts buying tools. Maybe you can borrow a table saw for the few things that you need one for. A skillsaw and jigs, cordless drill are pretty much a must. With the right jigs and thought, you could substitute the tablesaw needs for a skillsaw.

[Joe Nelson CS#35]

oh, and the dreaded sander will be necessary. :?

[pcuenin]

okay well based on your estamite it should cost about 3200 not considering tools. I think this could still be workable though I am going to be trying to cut cost without cutting corners obviously. I know this is not easily done

thanks for all of that info it makes the estamite of the project a little more clear to me. I still hope to be able to do it, going sailing/coastal camp cruising with my fiance/soon to be wife is a major goal of mine.

I have been on your site many times... great source of info about the core sound.

thanks for response ray.

joe thanks for the tool list I will keep this post on file in the spring when I plan on buying all of them.

thanks and let me know if anyone else has any feeling about a ballpark budget or CS15 vs CS17

-Paul

[Joe Nelson CS#35]

Start buying your tools now...then you wont feel the financial pressures as much when you start buying materials. You can get by with a $40 entry level skill saw and jig saw. 5-6" random orbital sander. I would get a good DeWalt or other top brand battery operated drill. You can get them on sale for just over a hundred bucks. You will have it for years. A second battery is a great add on. One charging while the other is in use. Hope to hear from you this spring...making sawdust!

I agree with Ray on going with the 17. I built the 20 and love it! Think about your older age when you are not skinny anymore and need more payload capacity. :roll:

[Garry]

Ray,

I just took a look at your site and I am impressed. You have added a lot since I looked at it some time ago.

I very much enjoyed the posting the Small Boat Journal article ane Graham's thoughts about the Core Sound 17.

I appreciate your obvious commitment to small boats and boatbuilding. I would really like to be able to support you except that I am one who has to do everything myself.

I have take n the libery of posting a message about your site and your commitment on Trailer Sailer.

I wish you all the best.

Garry

[Kidd]

I just wanted to vouch for Ray's comment on Meranti plywood. I used it on my CS 17 and it works fine. It is, however, heavier than the Okume. Don't forget to post your pictures. On another thought, If you attend Clemson, I am fairly sure you are familiar with lake Hartwell. This is a great place to sail a CS of any size

[mustangermatt]

Sails are a place you can economize quite a bit. www.baconsails.com has a huge selection of reasonably priced used sails. Their description of condition and size were very accurate.

I changed my rig from sprit to trad booms, but I found a number of jibs that would have worked well for the sprit sails.

Cost for my two sails was about $150 including shipping.

[pcuenin]

okay well thanks for the pointers on places for savings... and that hull building is the place to buy the best possible in budget makes sense. But sails, and hardware could be a possiblility because they can be replaced later.

once again thanks for all of the info guys.

On another thought, If you attend Clemson, I am fairly sure you are familiar with lake Hartwell. This is a great place to sail a CS of any size

that is part of the plan. I sail on hartwell with the clemson sailing club and it is fun...not the most consistantly strong winds but I guess it is a lake and I can't complain becuase at least I live near some body of water. Hopefully I will have a CS(or spindrift) on hartwell come fall/spring.

[chipveres]

Just wanted to add a cost-saving trick C.J. and I use: Get the West Marine catalog. They have everything for boats. Look up the piece you need. Shop till you find it for half the West Marine price. Then buy.