adla Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Ya know, after i made the gaff jaws...i really liked the way they shaped up and didn't feel flimsy. i have failed at several wheel making attempts and have decided to give it a go again and double the recipe. Yes, i know this will be a mondo wheel but so, far i really like it...so much so, that Mini-Me and i have glued up some more mahogany to do the other 3 spokes. Here is our progress... [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
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Mike Pennington Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 That should be plenty strong with that center fit. I used a tiller the first season but finally broke down and built a wheel from salvaged wood. I love the wheel, much more room in the cockpit. Keep going, Master Builder, your getting there. Quote
adla Posted July 11, 2004 Author Posted July 11, 2004 :shock: Master Builder :shock: that is a little too generous...we have gorged a bunch of Watermelon and are headed back to the shop...ganna make sum spars.... we don't really know what we are doing... Quote
Stump Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 None of us do. If we did, we wouldn't even attempt it! I mean really, building a boat? Who do you think you are? Noah? Ya' buy boats, ya' don't build 'um yerself :wink: Quote
Guest Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 :shock: Master Builder :shock: that is a little too generous...we have gorged a bunch of Watermelon and are headed back to the shop...ganna make sum spars.... we don't really know what we are doing... Life is all about that. Its what makes us do new things. We are all borned with the desire and need to know, till we are told we can't do it. ANd I haven't found anything that I can't do, if I don' t try it in the first place. Thats your heavy thought for the day. Looks great. These threads, of yours, could could be a great video for many people in this country. Quote
adla Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 A few more and then i quit for the day...we laminated 3 pieces of mahogany (we don't care if it is too heavy :twisted: we're girls and we think it is pretty) and then we cut the ol' octagon...and shaped the rest by hand for the gaff spar...Weeeeeeeeeeee feel like we actually got something done today!!!! [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin] Quote
Barry Pyeatt Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Just lookat all the great new things you have learned so far. New language skils, patience beyond the norm, visionary thinking, possibility thinking, how to use some new power tools and all these new friends. Oh...and along the way you are building a great little sailboat as well. Your Pappy should be proud girl. I hate to state it this way; but, this has sure been a lot of fun having you and Jan building Weekenders at the same time. I think we all have been learning a lot from your experiences and your willingness to share all the trials and tribulations along with the victories. Your spokes are going to make a very strong hub. Are you biscuit joining them? I made a thicker wheel than called for and I like the feel of it better. I think you will like the feel of yours this way. I joined the spokes and other pieces with biscuits and it is incredibly strong. But I made the spokes and hub as one assembly slightly different than called for. I should have taken your approach and just gotten new power tools as I went along. That way I would have a nice new shop instead of all the antiques that I use. But they work and are dependable. Just not shiney and new. Keep on plugging away, you are getting closer to rigging this thing. Quote
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Jan Williamson Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 The band saw does it so nice. Lookin' good. I had to cut out a new wheel. The first one was out of DF and plywood. I didn't like the way it looked plus, don't ask me how but the 20 inch wheel was too big :shock: . It hit the seats. I have measured and can't find anything off. Unless it is the angle of the steering shaft. I drilled both holes by the plan. So it is back to the drawing board.... er.... band saw This one is an inch smaller, cut out of jatoba and oak. I don't know how it will hold up. I know it is very dense. I would like to find a metal ring for the front side. I couldn't get anyone in my house to help me when it came to 16+ hours :shock: of sanding. Quote
adla Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 actually Barry...the toOls were (most of them) bought because i wanted to do crafty faerie projects for my MANY nieces and nephews...building the boat just caused me to need the bandsaw badly...but i had always wanted one anyways. it wasn't even a year ago really that i woke up and decided i wanted to work with wOOd...(thats why they all looks so new - they are) my affordability comes in other sacrifices...i don't watch tv for example so while many people pay 50-80 a month for cable...i get 2 channels also, mini me is a niece..she walks talks and looks like me but i get to send her home WE DID slice some poplar today VERY thin and start a wooden faerie book project....she would have been bored completely if it had all been boat stuff... :roll: *sigh* suPer tiRED... adla Quote
adla Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 Jan...don't make me nervous :shock: :shock: :shock: i think i might have cut the wheel shaft hole thing at a pretty steep angle...if i get this wheel right...i'll cut the seats before i cut the wheel :twisted: funny how ya have to sand alone...if Mini-me hadn't been around i guarantee the dogs wouldn't have lifted a paw to help :roll: a. Quote
Jan Williamson Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Adla, I am actually am going to re-cut the hole in the lazzerette to bring the shaft up higher by 1/2 an inch putting it at a steeper angle. I haven't attached the clutch plate yet anyway. I would like to see more room between the seat corners and one of the spindles. Right now I have the the center of the hole cut at 2 1/2" from the deck and the screw hole through the transom 6 1/2" inches from the deck. So what ever the angle is, it needs to be higher. Quote
adla Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 well Jan, i am going to look into it tomorrow...i have been trying to get dinner on and deal with the way Mini-Me leaves so much behind every time she goes away (she takes advantage of my Fed-Ex account) .... i purchased an 18" wheel from e-bay a while ago....pretty but can't really take a hold of it...seems weak. The gaff jaws inspired me to laminate the mahogany and revisit some old sheet music in the piano bench "do you know....where you're going tooooo" lallaaa laaa.....I appreciate the warning...haven't fiberglassed my seats in yet (oh wooden boat God's forgive me...I PLAN TO SIN) ima have to check this oUT and adjust my seats accordingly... Hey, Barry...i don't mind you saying anything in whatever "way" you feel like saying it (i thnk yer nice)...maybe, it wasn't clear that years ago i ran a hack fiberglass operation and was a small engine mechanic ta bOot....i'm a bit less petite than i used to be but no less female...and i have been in the thick of it with the best and worst of men in a shop. Competence isn't gender related IMHO...my *boss* used to only want to hire men...he saw me as some sort of *freak of nature* & until, he let me do the hiring and ask questions like "are you familiar with a micrometer?" or "do you see a .001 of an inch with your naked eye too (facetious)" my ranks were full of ex-cons and "airbags"...needless to say, i wandered into a different life and MISSED like HELL the working with hands.... :twisted: i don't miss the heat :twisted: almost felt like i was burning calories or something aweful today....had to have more WATERMELON ! a. Quote
Fintan Murphy Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Jan, what I used, if it is of any help, is a piece of thin brass. You should be able to get this from engineers suppliers. I cut a circle to fit over the ply disk, and a ring to fit over the outside ply ring. This looked fairly good against the varnished mahogany. Quote
JMetzner Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I waited a very long time before making my wheel and I was glad I did. My wife bought me a very nice wheel for christmas a year ago, Mahogany & brass, but waaaay too big. But that got me to measuring what size wheel I'd really need. That's when I found out that the standard wheel from the plans wouldn't fit either. I evidently drilled the steering shaft hole in the lazerette a half inch too low. Hmmm, what to do.... so I took the plans to work and made 60%, 70%, 80% and 90% copies of the wheel plans. I cut out the spindle piece and checked how it "swung" on the shaft. I ended up building a 16 in. wheel (80%) and it barely clears the port seat by maybe a quarter of an inch. The smaller size hasn't seemed to cause any steering difficulties yet. Saturday I was still able to apply enough pressure to blow one of the blocks apart (but that's another story). --John M. Fairbanks, AK Quote
Mike Pennington Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I guess I just lucked out with my wheel, talk about the luck of the witt-less. Fit the first time I just looked at the picture, said huh? And then looked at my wifes old captain chairs and grinned. I put away two jobs that day, built my wheel and got out of restoring those dang chairs. :roll: She had bought me a scroll saw for a present, not the band saw I wanted, but it worked. :wink: I never once took a measurement, I just went for what felt strong and looked good to me. If I dropped it on my foot I would be crying. But it is my wheel, and I like it. Kind of makes the boat, one gets many oooohs and aaawws just for the wheel alone. Swells the head :roll: when they ask, "Did you build that?" I didn't know what I was doing either, but she still floats and I get a thrill out of that boat everytime I take her out. Quality, can mean doing the best you can with what you have. Quote
Johannah Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Please pardon the off-topic words, but Mike how are you and how is the wandering wolf? Quote
Mike Pennington Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Jo, the little scamp likes to sail with or without me :roll: Repairs are well under way, and when I'm done she will be in better shape than ever. I caught up with you at BYYB and saw your post, so went looking for this one :wink: Just one of God's little speed bumps, he keeps me tuned up these days, no slacking. I am allowed to slow down though, no point in pushing my luck. My father was diagnosed with cancer, had a heart attack while driving on the way home and was killed by the crash. I don't mean to be coarse in bringing this up, but my point is I'm not going to get stressed out over this. I have led a good life, a very full one. I have survived some very scary situations, all because the Highest Power has something yet for me to accomplish in life. He wouldn't of saved my dum behiney upteen dozen times if he didn't. I'll survive this one, too. :shock: Thanks for your words, Mike Quote
Jan Williamson Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Brass sounds good. I'll have to look into that. That would look good too. I made the hole higher for the steering wheel shaft. Added a block of wood behind the lazerette. Solved the problem The new 18 inch wheel will fit nicely ( don't have it glued together yet). Pics later Quote
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