Weekender SNUPI Builder

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Hae Jake , are ya proud of me ???? I seem to have stirred things up a bit and ruffled a few feathers ! Figured, seeing that you were under the weather, I'd fill in fer ya and help ya keep things goin' !! :twisted: :wink:

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Aaaah, Ray, Would that be called "POTATO SONAR" by chance ! I damn near fell off the chair when I read that one !

Yup Craig, the east coast fog DOES GET SEVERELY LUMPY ! I've been out on a friend's 32' Cape Islander, when you really had to strain to see the bow ! Ray's not joking when he states that if you wait for the ideal, "No potential fog" conditions, you might only get out on the water a few times ! I think Ray will agree, that we "Down-easters" have been brought up with it, respect it, and have either learned how to deal with it , or you'll find the names of those who didn't carved in a slab of marble on a hillside ! I guess a person has to experience "blind" Down-East coastal fog to appreciate the totally unnerving feeling of cruising along at 2 or 3 knots, straining to see something, ... anything, and SUDDENLY ......have a shoreline, wharf or another moored boat appear at your bow ! This is one reason I ALWAYS locked my O B motor down in foggy conditions ...... When I wanted "brakes" & a shot of FULL ASTERN POWER, it was there ! Quite frankly, Craig, I'd sooner fly IFR anyday, ( Even without GPS), with the registered flight plan, in constant in-flight contact with the various control areas / zones, plus for the most part being up there with other people that were also not treating white-out as a lark......... than in sea fog with basically untrained & ill equipped navigators ! I suppose , (I Hope), the time will come when it will be illegal to sail in zero visibility unless you are properly equipped and licensed , the same as aviation ! Speaking of which, I'm always amazed that a VFR pilot in the US can fly above the clag without an IFR rating & panel. In Canada, it's min. 500 feet below for VFR raings or you must have an IFR rating/panel ! In all probability, Mr. Kennedy would be alive today if either he had held his IFR rating, or been experienced enough to realize he was flying into extremely dangerous IFR Haze conditions !

You're absolutely accurate about the "Sneaky Fog" on the north east coast, Ray ................ I have been motoring around the islands of Mahone Bay, sunny day, just idling about, looking at moored boats , summer homes and just plain poking around enjoying the scenery, only to come out from behind some islands to find a fog bank rolling in and for all intents & purposes, blinding the route to "Home". Usually, you can power up and beat it to shore, but most times you go in "crawl" mode, blow your horn every 2 minutes and plan on taking your time ! This works if you you know the waters very well and basically do the dead rec. navigation thang ! Other than that, it's find a mooring spot and wait out a wind shift or plan on spending the nite !

I APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN OFFENDED BY MY "RADAR" REMARKS ! I have seen sooooo many idiots both on lakes AND on the coastal waters of Nova Scotia, running stupid ....., that is to say, NO PFDs, NO LIGHTS, No safety gear of any sort, SCREAMING / BITCHING about the Coast Guard when they get stopped & checked ! However, these are the same turkeys that the Coast Guard and private boaters have to rescue when they get caught "Dead in the Water". I've towed a couple of these half drunk party - - - - - - -'s ashore over the years, then received smart-ass thanks in return ! On one occasion, about 7 years ago, late at night returning from Mahone Bay to Chester basin, we spotted what looked like a series of small but short lived fires, from a direction where there was no land , i.e., the ATLANTIC ! I had lots of fuel on board, the seas were dead calm, we were equipped with all the proper running lights, compass VHF , cell phone., etc, PLUS, I'm familar with the bay, so we motored out some 3 - 4 miles off shore and found "A bunch of well lubed mouthy twits", in a sailing dingie, 16 - 18' , with no motor, no oars, no lights, no VHF ... and NO WIND , but LOTS & LOTS OF BOOZE ! They were tearing up the cardboard beer boxes and burning them for FLARES !!!!! They didn't ask me if I would tow them in , Rather they TOLD me , not only that I WAS GOING TO TOW THEM IN , but that I WAS GOING TO TAKE THEM TO LUNENBURG HARBOUR , some 10 miles away from where we were headed ! We called the Cdn Marine operator , ( Coast Guard), and gave them our location and what was going on. They said they would have somebody meet us at Chester Basin ! Well........ I put THEIR line on my ski bar cleat and proceeded to Chester Basin. Every once in a while we could hear somebody ranting something, but dang it, for some reason they just couldn't seem to make themselves heard from 40 ' away and over the purring of a 140 Merc ! A couple of times they tried to pull themselves up closer to my boat, but a few more rev's on my "Merry Merc" soon discouraged that thought ! I towed them to within 10 feet or so of the Chester Basin wharf at around 11:30 PM and told my buddy to lift the line ! I circled around to hear what they had to say, only to find there was a fist fight going on in their boat ! ...Seems there was some "heated debate" whether they should put a pounding on us for not taking them to Lunenburg or thank us for towing them in off the Atlantic in the middle of the night ! FIRST, they had to pound the bejabers out of each other ! Funny as hell to watch the Officers help those really "Hammered guys stumble out of their boat & up on the wharf , and into a waiting pair of "cruisers" ! 2 POINTS : (1) I did get your attention .......and ....I DAMN WELL DO Take Marine Safety DEAD SERIOUSLY ! As seriously as I took flying safety ! I flew privately from 1964 - 1989, VFR / IFR / airbatic / float & wheel ,single engine ratings.. 1800 hrs ~ and MOST IMPORTANTLY, big water or small water ~ (2) Do you really want to really want to put yourself & loved ones at risk for the sake of a proper portable, foldable and efective $35.00 radar reflector ? Oh yes, while I'm ranting, A VHF , or even a CB , ANYTHING but burning beer boxes, ..... can also save your bacon ! There are areas where we all sorta cut a corner or two constructing out boats. The one area we should NEVER cut corners, ....IS SAFETY ! , Particularly when we're talking such a petty amount of money !

Arnie, I don't know whether you'll be sailing where the BIG BOYS sail or not, but some words of advice from somebody who has grown up around FOG, both coastal and on lakes ! (1) ... Coastal fog can roll in on you at speeds equal to AND greater than the the speed you're sailing! Not only that, fog has a nasty habit of cutting off your route to shore with NO WARNING ! (2) Boats that are navigating in foggy conditions are not always engine powered ... they could be under sail... you'd NEVER hear them coming, unless they are sounding their bell or horn as required ~ Power vessel , one long blast every 2 minutes ~ Sailing vessel , One long & two short blasts , every 2 minutes ( Canada) MORE IMPORTANTLY, your safety will rely on the captain of that vessel being on his toes, NOT having his 4th RUMSICLE, watching his radar screen and NOT JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO HIS GPS or COMPASS ! (3) Your "Radar Signature", like your fog horn, , wants to be as BIG AS YOU CAN MAKE IT , so another vessel, perhaps silently under sail & incapable of a quick avoidance manoeuvre, has every extended minute you can provide him, to avoid smucking and PERHAPS KILLING YOUR OR YOUR LOVED ONES ! The better the reflector, the BIGGER the signature you put on somebody's radar screen ! A handfull of crumpled up tinfoil stuffed in a mast hole JUST DOESN'T BLOODY WELL CUT IT ! As a matter of opinion, such a childish stunt is nothing short of a stupid trick some land bound brainless idiot, who has never sailed in fog or any other weather, would suggest , and anybody relying on such stupidity deserves to get their stern clipped !!!!! Such a stunt is right up there with using a couple of air filled zip-loc bags in your pocket for a PFD ! You can get ZERO VISIBILITY FOG even on a lake, however the saving grace is that there isn't quite the likelyhood of another vessel sailing in your course. I've been on motor vessels in severe fog conditions, and if you want to experience what it's like, blindfold your self and go for a sail ! Sooooooooo , GET THE PROPER RADAR REFLECTING SYSTEM and A FOG HORN for your boat, they're cheap! "USE THE FOIL WRAP FOR YOUR SANDWICHES" ! :evil:

Hi Joe, I think Frank and Russ pretty much summed up the "Stevenson's Pocket Yachts" Pros & Cons. There is, however, one area they didn't broach...... ADAPTABILITY ! There are as many versions of the Weekender, Vacationer and Pocket Cruiser models as there are fleas on a dog's back ! Just about everyone modifies their boat to some degree, some more than others ! One of the reasons for this and their extreme popularity is THE COMPLETE EASE OF MAKING MODIFICATIONS and still retaining the integrity of the boat. These "mods" include everything from upscaling 110% - 124 % to making radical mods, such as my 118% Weekender SNUPI ! Once you acquire a grasp of the design concept, the opportunities to make the boat fit your needs & budget are endless ! These boats were NEVER INTENDED to be a multi-thousand dollar, multi year building , but rather an EXTREMELY STRONG, easily built and in experienced hands, the seaworthyness of the heritage "Grand Banks Dory" becomes evident ! It's the most "bang for the buck" that I've encountered, and YES it is a safestrong boat that has multitudes of novice as well as many very experienced sailers operating and loving their STEVENSON BOAT ! If you want to see what happens when a builder looses control...... , but does his research homework, check out SNUPI at the "www" below .

Nodoubt you're absolutely correct. Until a year ago I didn't know diddley about anything but "Stinkpots". But, now , a year later I DO know Diddley ! As I read and hear more about sailing vessels, things I've heard over the years from my family, and their/my "Lunenburg" friends are starting to have "A ring" to them ! I suspect the "weight forward" idea came about as result of the "Liquid cargo" being stowed for some reason, in a forward hold under the salted cod and perhaps it was noticed that the schooners were faster in that mode. I have no idea ! Perhaps it originally had something to do with to do with the loading or off-loading. Some of the cargos were fairly hefty. My dad untentionally got involved with one "cargo" and stored it in his drugstore back storeroom for a short period! Eight hundred, (800) square one gallon tins of pure alkie !!! That's FOUR TONS +/- ! My Dad, who was on the town council, respected family & businessman damn near lost his life when my mother found out about that one ! Hell, Half the town was involved in "Runnin" to one degree or another ! ANYHOW ....... if that 4 tons was mostly or all placed forward, it would have to have some effect or another . To the best of my knowledge, that was a standard location . If it would have slowed the vessel, you can bet that it would have been moved ....... SPEED was the required commodity with the "Revenours" in hot persuit ! Over the years, I've heard that one of the main reasons for the Bluenose's speed had to do the heavier foredeck". ( Ballast being shifted, notwithstanding) Angus used to tell Dad that his Bluenose would, "Get down and take the Bit in her teeth". I always presumed that meant getting her bow down into the waves / swells ? I do know that it was a common schooner thing when taking in a storm, to shift some weight forward if possible, for what ever that might have to do with the "speed" of the hull ! I took a 15 day scallop dragging trip in 1965 down 80 miles off South Carolina with Capt John Conrad, on the wooden 107' Judy & Linda. ( She was the one that got "clocked & sunk" by a container ship and a crew member took a video of her sinking, that was subsequently plastered all over TV ) We steamed down past Georges Banks to the Carolinas with ice pretty much even between the forward and rear areas of the hold. When we started packing scallops, we loaded forward first and the skipper made sure we had it "Packed", before we started filling the aft side stalls and center isle ! Again , for what reason? I don't have the slightest !

Thanks for the heads up about the Feb issue of WB ! No question Bill Roue was a "Master" of design ! I get a great chuckle when the Bluenose's skipper's name surfaces. I think I mentioned that he and my Dad were pretty close friends . Here on the south coast of Nova Scotia, as well as, I'm sure the coast of Maine, the BIG money wasn't in fishing as much as delivering certain prohibited liquid refreshments from the off shore steamers to the mainland ! Of course the Coast Guard & R.C.M.P were always on the lookout for a "Banker Schooner" returning from the Grand Banks with perhaps more than salted cod ! Typically, and initially, the Canadian Government, in it's infinite wisdom saved money by trying to use fishing schooners to catch these guys. Sooooo, the fastest skippers usually got the cargo, and there was an ongoing battle to squeeze another knot or two out of these rigs ! Angus Walters was a skipper's SKIPPER ! My Dad often remarked that Angus was stubborn, bullheaded and in keeping with his smallish stature, ready for a scrap at the drop of a cod-head , but a likable Cuss! " I am the CAPTAIN, and don't ever be forgettin' it", was apparently his welcoming speech to any new crew member ! However, the most significient aspect fo Angus's character, was the ability to push the schooner's envelope, so to speak, to the limits that he was on the very edge of disaster, but stopping just a whisker short ! If his vessel had another half knot in her, Angus would find it, even if it meant loosing some gear ! ( and more than not, some crew, who figured he was borderline suicidal ) However, the "old-timers" who knew what sailing was all about, would stay on for years, loving every moment of Angus's cussin and bellowin' ! This is all leading to Famous Bluenose ! .........During the construction, Angus battled, (What else ), Bill Roue, ( Designer), and Dick Smith, ( Of Smith and Rhuland shipyard), toamong other things, raise the foredeck over 12 inches, which by a strange coincidence, added weight to the bow. Another little "switcheroo" that Angus pulled, according to my dad, he was quite pleased with himself for having done so, was to "persuade" the shiprights to "accidently" shift the ballast density, (by some means ~ who knows what"), forward by a considerable degree ! Apparently, this "one" , plus who would ever know what else, slipped past Bill Roue ! So , combine a fiesty skipper who was experienced with "out-running" "whoever", ...... would push his boat harder than most rational skipper would attempt, for fear of breaking something, ...... a schooner that was "Bow heavy", ( Sound familar, Ray) , ........plus a beautifully designed hull by Bill Roue, VOILA' ..... and you have the receipt for a race winner ! The Bluenose's sister ship, Theresa Conners, could never match the Bluenose's speed, no matter how "Wild" her skipper was ! My Dad always claimed that the reason the Bluenose ran so fast, was the "SHE WAS AFRAID OF ANGUS" !!!!!

Fer Gawd sakes, Jake, ain't you got no learnin about sports at all ? :x ..... Tiger Woods is gonna come thru with a base hit, a birdie on the 4th hole, 2 touchdowns, and then save the day with a burst of speed with his Buick, to win by a nose ! 8) 8) 8)

It' very apparent, Frank, and it's a common error with visitors from warmer parts of the country, that if you're freezing your duff, that you obviously failed to get a hotel with the standard "Winter Season Northern Climate Environmentally Friendly Optional Thermal Comforting Device ". :twisted: :wink: :wink: [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin]

Hi Paul, Working to get the draft / drawing of SNUPI's sails completed ...... both the furling /reefing genoa and the mainsail as it works with the "hard" rotating airfoil mast. I'm likely going to have to phone you to work out some of the details of this " wing-ding" setup ! ( Figured I'd say it and save you or Jake the trouble ) How much detail do you need at this point to give me a "rough" idea of what you would charge for this setup? The attached "drawing", is just that, "a drawing" ! The running rigging will have to be designed. Simply put, the battened, foot loose, main runs in a track at the trailing edge of the airfoil and should have two reefing points, allowing that the airfoil mast will try to sail on it's own. The boom will run in a Harken car/track traveller system mounted on the "spoiler", via a "bridle". and has an "outhaul" system buried within the boom. A "Vang" is being considered. The genoa will be using a Ronstan furler system with an extruded epoxy filles, aluminum furling tube and a track for slugs , or whatever. There'll also be a forestay mounted ahead of this system. The genoa will be attached to a pair of Harken cars running in a pair of 36" harken cabin mounted tracks. The exact dimensions for the sails are still being worked on, hense my question ..... how much detail do you require ? [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin]

I'm all for climate warming ! As Long as Ray and his crew keep sending Nova Scotia all that sub-human freezing weather, I'm gonna commence promoting GLOBAL WARMING big time ! Starting this weekend, I'm adding 4 or 5 quarts / litres of used oil to my gas tank, leave the car running ALL NITE LONG, buy a bunch of used fridges ,free the Freon to the air and buy a ton of dirty poor grade coal and set it afire in the back yard ! That ought to help the climate warming process !

You're right, Ray. When I get a chance, I want to read and find out more about that hull. It appears that it's fairly straight forward, making sheet plywood construction a snap. A person may have to revert to "some" of the traditional building methods, but a lot of the Weekender" system could easily be blended in, simplifying the process ! A friend had an inboard cabin cruiser that he used on the South Shore. He had a 4 cyl. Austin engine , ( Horrors !), couple of berths, thru hull head, a wee galley , etc. AND a flying bridge. That damn thing was only 17 1/2' long !!!! It had a lot higher bow, and more freeboard and he used to run all up and down the coast with it ! He had more faith in that "Kipper" engine that I would EVER have !

I'm like you, Pat, I use Netscape on both my PC's for the simple reason that I can't afford to screw around with all the viruses & bugs that plague every damn PC at the office that's running Bill Gates "Hacker Collector", regardless of the brand of anti-virus systems they're running !

Anyone else finding that the photo galleries won't open for NETSCAPE 4.7, but will for M/S EXPLORER ? Curious , that's all . :?

I really liked the article by Tom Gallant about Bill Roue, designer of the original "BLUENOSE" schooner, out of my home town Lunenburg ! Kinda cute the way the author describles Capt. Angus Walters input during construction . Angus and my Dad were close friends. Angus was at the Smith & Rhuland shipyard damn near every hour of every day, breaking frequently to have a lunch at my Dad's drugstore, just a few minutes away, then back again ! Angus would fill Dad in about the day's happenings, apparently to vent some of the steam, before heading back ! There apparently was a lot that went on at the shipyard, between Angus, Dick Smith & Bill Roue that was extremely heated, but in the end, Angus won out, as he did with everything he countered, including races and storms !

Okay Ray, You win this one ! It IS a fine looking boat AND it would be a natural for that aluminum Honda 2 cy.l liquid cooled 11 hp motor ! The layout is such that a cabin w/berths, p.potti and a kitchenette could easily be incorporated. A "Flying Bridge :roll: ............OF COURSE ! :wink: [attachment over 4 years old deleted by admin]

Thanks Bill, I don't have "clue one" what was going on ! The first was oversized, I didn't realize the 600 x restriction, but thereafter I kept downsizing and still "zip". Then...... out of the blue, and after you posted it, I gave it another shot , and "Wham", there it was . I then posted another pic that was just on the border, size wise, and not a hitch ! Thanks for the help with this gremlin. ....... Graeme :wink:

Weird....... I just did EXACTLY as I had been doing, and POOF, there it was ! I think I need another glass of Billiards ! :?

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Hi Frank, I just tried 500 x 180 , got the "cannot store attachment" message again. Beats me !