glwanabe

The most free online information I've yet to find on these boats. I find them to be one of the finest looking boats. No they dont really floowww, in there lines. They are all about, get out of my way, I've got work to do. Yea know, kinda like Foghorn Leghorn smacking the chicken hawk outta the way, "Go away boy, yer botherin me" http://www.alberta-ck318.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm cool picture,nice colors. http://www.alberta-ck318.freeserve.co.uk/smacklist/fly.htm

Thanks for the replies, I've written two differnet replies to better explain my changes, but lost both of them, ARRRG. Anyway, I am not talking about a wineglass transom or an actual compound curve to the front of the boat. Rather on the front a simple arc instead of the faux clipper bow, and a flat, side to side instead of curved transom. These are all changes that I have read about some others doing and would just like to incorporate into my boat. I would lose about 5" of front keel wood on the bow area. I fully understand that this boat has limitations to the design. I'am just wanting a little bit less friendship sloop, and more towards a Herreshoff "12 1/2" profile. No radical redesign. The wider rear section would only be several pounds of material. I will model it before I build it. Bill, Your boat is one that I have had bookmarked for a while, as an example of what I want. Ray I am sure Mr. Flanagan deserves every penny he charges for his product. It is still out of my reach. I only used that site because it was the first site I found of something close to the "12 1/2" model of boat. I have since found a haven "12 1/2" builders website. After I do some math I will get back with some numbers. You all can then take turns shooting at me. Cheers.

Greetings , check out this lovely craft. Then check out it's lovely cost. I'll meet you below the link, let's talk. http://www.chipboat.com/shop3buzzardsbay.html Ok, I know that this boat is not that boat, but I believe there are several features that can be incorporated. 1. open cabin for sure. 2. Widen the stern. Checked through several post and a few of you agree that a wider stern could be done here, but... how much wider? I'am thinking that keeping the same side linear measurement, and not curving it in as much, maybe 4" total. I'll have to do the math on the curve as well as read some naval design stuff. The top deck sides would be opened out a bit more leaving a 3" or 4" edge as opposed to the 7" in the plans. The goal here is to make a larger cockpit area for two adults to work from. Give me your ideas here for sure. 3. I really like the whole transom area on the linked boat. I think a flat transom could work. It would need to be 5/8" or 3/4" and properly braced to provide the stiffness that the curved transom provides. I would also build the lazarette the same way, sunken below the top edge of the transom, and a little longer front to back for stiffness. I could live with the curved transom if you all think it is important. Tiller steering of course! 4. Reshape the bow to look more like the linked boat. I would need to add more under deck bracing, and a chain stay to brace the bowsprit. I think this is probably the easiest mod to do. 5. I like the idea of a centerboard so I would like to put one in, and fair the keel like Tim Diebert (sp) has done to his. I would like to eventually take the boat into Galveston bay, when I have some experience with her. I know someone will say to build John Welsfords "Navigator", I thought about it, and really like it, but the cost is much more. The finish will be minimal brightwork, except for a nice cockpit coaming extending all the way to the transom. The spars and sprit will be bright, but thats about it. I've had my plans for over a year now, but have been working on my house. I've still got a few other projects to complete, but hope to start building within the next year. Actually I plan to start building small parts and buying hardware little by little. Major fabrication on the hull will be given a major push to complete once started.