Uncle Frosty Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Looks awesome! I am impressed. I am going to share those photos, this is (I think) an under appreciated design. Your build will probably help that. :-) Now, as for seat position I have a formula that is SUPPOSED to give a rough location based on the paddlers weights. I would love to compare it to what you are seeing. I plug in the paddles weight and it supposed to give me the positions of the seats. It warned that some minor adjustments might be needed but I would love to know how close it is to reality. Now maybe this is a dumb question since I am a kayaker and not much of a canoeist, but did you try paddling tandem facing the other way? Looks to me that if you turned around it might balance better as a tandem. What is the front seat in the photo appears way to far forward to paddle tandem. Looks like it would make the bow plow unless it was a really light person in the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Being a canoe guy, I think he turned it around to paddle solo. Easiest way to make a big canoe a small canoe is to turn it around and sit in the bow seat backward. Again, that's my guess... It is a cool little boat. I build pirogues in ply and sometimes lapstrake, and we use them to pieces. This is a very neat looking little boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Frosty Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 To paddle solo, I am sitting on the back of the bow seat, facing the stern. Keep in mind that this design is symmetrical, so both ends are the same. It doesn't matter which direction you paddle it. And, yes, the bow seat is too far forward to paddle as a tandem. Thanks for the positive feedback. Glad you can not look too closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 After I posted that I went back and looked that the photos and realized what you were doing. Seat position wouldn't allow what I was thinking. I started to edit it and decided just to show my ignorance instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 That is a really neat little boat. I build a pirogue model we have evolved over the years in either wood (dory lapped sides, splined cross plank bottom), or super cheap out of ply. We don't use seats, but either kneel/squat on pads, or stand and pole/paddle. I firmly believe if a person could only have one boat, it should be a 17ish foot canoe. Paddle, row it with outriggers, camp, sail. A good canoe, well built, can do it all. If it will only be used in flat water, a nice little pirogue comes second. And, Frosty, even close up your boat looks cool. Never apologize. Nobody who ever built their own boat would point out the flaws in your boat, for fear of having their own boat's flaws exposed! And the rest will probably be unable to detect the flaws you point out. It is a nice looking boat. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Frosty Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Thanks, AT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynfysh Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Thanks for posting this, I have the plans and am planing to build one this winter. I was a little worried that it would be too small for me (i'm heavier than you) but watching the video I think it will be just what I want. Looking for a craft to tie on a float plane and go up shallow rivers to do some steelheading in the spring, I have built a Vardo but getting older and I'm not too graceful getting in and out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kspaddler Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Uncle Frosty, What did she end up weighing? Your build almost has me convinced to build to build one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy00 Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Uncle Frosty: Nice! So give us a review; how does she paddle compared to other boats you've paddled? Regarding the position of a bow seat, serious canoes sometimes have a bow seat that adjusts fore-and-aft to trim the boat to account for the weights of the stern paddler, the bow paddler, and any gear. They are sometimes known as "slider seats." See example below. Paddle on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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