LennieG Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Glad everyone is safe....sorry it didn't end differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 The new CS 20 MK III performed flawlessly. It was dry and stable and comfortable. We left the beach with one reef in each sail. We were not challenged across Tampa Bay. In the steep chop off Anna Maria (~4 foot), a way over-canvassed i550 pitch-poled 150 yards in front of us (he was flying a code zero and an unreefed fat topped main). After turning the corner at Anna Maria, we were in the lee of the land about a mile off shore in one foot seas. We shook out the reefs and had our fastest sail ever to Stump Pass (arriving at ~3:45). Michael, exhausted from a business trip, even slept 2 1/2 hours. After all the fuss and disappointment from the cancellation, we sailed back to my truck at Ft. DeSoto. The cover of the bolt for the centerboard did leak a few gallons, and I will be consulting with Graham about better caulk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks for the report Doug. I am sorry for all of you the event was cancelled. I was planning on going to CP1 saturday evening, but when the event was cancelled, I decided to just hang with my Dad. It was so strange because it just seemed like a perfect day for sailing small boats. I hope you took pictures and video! Take Care, Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I forgot to mention that we did not use the water ballast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Doug, Alan or whoever was present, just what were the conditions at the start that caused so much trouble? Wind direction and strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnjost Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Nice to hear that all were safe, and that the CS series performed as expected. Doug, did you use polysulphide caulk for the covers? would love to know what compound led to the leakage. Just to add some documentation for consideration as some folks on the other boards have been critical of the Coasties decision to intervene. Two statutes, probably more (one state, one federal) apply to these events such as this one. http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/327.48 http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CIM_16751_3.pdf Interesting to note that the Federal one comes under Homeland Security. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul356 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Even the anarchists at Sailing Anarchy suggested a permit would have been a smart idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Silsbe Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 That's significant, coming from a group of anarchists! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Silsbe Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Why no water ballast, Doug? Speed demon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stewart Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 For those interested here are links to most of the stuff I have read so far about the EC 2015. Lots of descriptions of conditions but I subscribe to the theory that the CG's request to stop the event (I believe that's all they had the authority to do) had more to do with the number of small boats on the water and the fact that the watertribe mapper which usually shows all challengers on one mapping page was not working due to technical difficulties. Thus, it was difficult to keep track of all challengers positions. Whether or not that is even important for race management in a self proclaimed "unsupported event" is also another discussion. Just a few years ago we didn't have the tech available to the average boater. Anyway, here are some links. My trip report for this years Race (a bit short) http://www.sailnaway.blogspot.com/2015/03/2015-everglades-challenge-race-report.html Log of Spartina Blog where Steve wrote about us during the race. He was also our official shore contact person. http://logofspartina.blogspot.com/ Watertribe Forums: Where lots of helpful suggestions have been floated by tribers about how to improve. The event founder and head poobah is even now in talks with the CG on how to cooperate more going forward. http://watertribe.org/forums/ And if your more into bar fights there is the SA thread on the 2015 EC. Although toward the end things have more or less settled down and turned into constructive criticism...mostly. Warning, it's a long read with lots of stuff not worth reading interspersed with interesting perspectives...for sailors...kind of. http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=164096#entry4867903 Drone Footage of the race from a local hobbyist. Also, an article about how the guy who used a drone to film the start of the race (A GREAT VIDEO) was contacted by the FAA claiming that he was doing it for commercial purposes which they deemed illegal. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-says-you-cant-post-drone-videos-on-youtube Other trip reports: Microtom's report: http://watertribe.org/microtom/ Scareman report: http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/scaremans-ec-2015-race-report SandyBottom report: http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sandybottom-ec-2015-report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Caulk - I use Life Caulk on bare epoxy with three screws to secure the plate. I'll tak it apart when I g home to figure out what happened. Ballast - we were very stable with one reef in each sail and thus saw no reason for ballast. We would have had to open the tank after launching and would be half way across the Bay before it filled. As it was, we shook out our reefs after leaving the Bay and never felt overpowered. The Mark III has a larger main than the Mark I (the mizzen was moved aft to accommodate rowing and the weighted centerboard and the water ballast allow for more canvas), so adjustments in the Main were the key in the shifting winds on the way back. We did add water ballast Sunday morning when beating against the very shifty winds as it turned to SE. And we dumped it (using the Andersen bailer) on the broad reach back North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Thanks for the updates. I am finally going to start work on my CS20.3 tomorrow. I have been traveling non-stop with work and can only read about your exploits and for that I am grateful. I am picking up some wood for the centerboard, cleats and rudder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnjost Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Will second the motion on Life Caulk polysulphide sealant. I have used it many times and it works. You can dismantle the parts with a sharp blade later if needed. After reading all the EC and Ultramarathon reports, have been taking great pains to get my hatches tight on the CS 17. Gaskets going on once it warms up. https://www.flickr.com/photos/41024536@N02/16777277796/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/41024536@N02/16173999994/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docpal Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 David, Links aren't working for me. Anyone else having better luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnjost Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Oops. Try again. I had the privacy setting set incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docpal Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yup! Hatch looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docpal Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 This shot was just posted on the Water Tribe Facebook page showing Doug Cameron, and John Bell launching their boats at the start of the EC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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