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I had an aft facing galley in my Renegade. It is very efficient in use of space.  You have taken it to an all new level.  Good stuff.

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Time flies gentlemen. Here is Teddy, the cute kid sailing the Spindrift 11N in the link in my signature, who turns 18 next week, this past August sailing Skeena.

 

 

 

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There is some talk on the Everglades challenge 2020 page about boarding ladders.

One of the things I learned years ago in a very scary incident was that even a very fit person has trouble re-boarding a boat with high free-board when wet and fatigued. I added a ladder I saw at the messabout that I'm not sure who's boat it was, but I couldn't be happier with it.

 

Here it is:

 

I had a chance to swim a few times and it was easy to hold the top of the transom and deploy the ladder with one hand. As the ladder locks out at a nice angle I could easily use my legs to climb up. In any case, a good ladder is essential. I had a god-awful rope ladder on my Sea Pearl and it would swing under the boat and I usually just hoisted myself up, but I'm not sure in an emergency I could. Stay safe everybody.

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Thanks Steve. Very timely. I think it may be Amos that has a similar boarding ladder.

 

I hope it does not take an unfortunate incident to wise me up. My webbing works OK but if for some reason I lost a fraction of my strength I might not be able to get back in my boat.

 

I should take the might out of that sentence.

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Joe, I didn't want to put this in the EC 2020 thread, but it is timely. I think if you sail with someone else you are generally at a major advantage.
But........a situation years ago was swimming away from a Catalina 22 with a weak swimmer and having her get in trouble with waves and a bit of a current. Another guy and girl I was with had the same issue.  By the time I got the female to the boat I could barely get aboard and had to just have her hold on while I motored to my friend and his girlfriend. He was so weak (NYS Cross country champ BTW) he couldn't get up the steps without my help. I had recovered enough to pull both females aboard and all three spent the next half an hour throwing up. I am convinced that dumb luck and a good ladder saved 3 or 4 people from drowning.

 

Bottom line is that that was 35 years ago. I'm not getting stronger, reluctantly the opposite!

 

Take Care,

Steve

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Steve, who makes that ladder?

 

Also, I'm surprised that harmonica hasn't somehow found its way overboard... ;-)

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Not cheap, but here it is:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Garelick-Manufacturing-19700-Compact-Transom/dp/B007IDAZWK/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=Garelick%2FEEz-In&qid=1584631511&sr=8-13

 

It's made for a normal transom sloped opposite of our CS 3's so my son 3-D printed an adapter, while I know Amos (I think) made a wooden one.

 

What Harmonica?

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On 3/19/2020 at 8:27 AM, Steve W said:

Not cheap, but here it is:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Garelick-Manufacturing-19700-Compact-Transom/dp/B007IDAZWK/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=Garelick%2FEEz-In&qid=1584631511&sr=8-13

 

It's made for a normal transom sloped opposite of our CS 3's so my son 3-D printed an adapter, while I know Amos (I think) made a wooden one.

 

What Harmonica?

I installed the same ladder on my boat, I think it will be perfect!

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On 3/18/2020 at 8:19 AM, Joe Anderson said:

...but if for some reason I lost a fraction of my strength I might not be able to get back in my boat.

 

Joe,

There isn’t any “if” about loosing a fraction of [our] strength!  It will happen, and in a major way, as we age — most noticeably approaching the 80s.  Although I consider myself physically fit [for my 86 years] my strength has very much diminished since I started building Chessie 5 years ago.  I haven’t actually measured it, but [for example] it is now impossible to standup from a squat (or even from sitting on a low stool) without arm assistance.  So, for example, taking two-stair steps at a time requires [for me] a railing, preferably one on each side.  Although I’m sailing Chessie solo for at least another season, I’m consciously approaching it at a slower less demanding pace.

 

Sailors, especially skippers, should perform in-water re-boarding practice early each season.  Without that, an full understanding of the physical challenge is not likely.

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Hi Don, did you see the requirements to now purchase the Garlock Ez In from Fisheries Supply?

 

 Note: Due to installation complexities EEZ-In II ladders can be sold only to OEMs and Authorized Installers

 

So as builders can we be considered OEM in this instance?

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13 hours ago, Jknight611 said:

Hi Don, did you see the requirements to now purchase the Garlock Ez In from Fisheries Supply?

 

 Note: Due to installation complexities EEZ-In II ladders can be sold only to OEMs and Authorized Installers

 

So as builders can we be considered OEM in this instance?

No way!!!  Maybe B&B can be an OEM for us.

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Fear not.

There seem to be two versions (both called EZ-IN 2 apparently) and i think some are confusing these. There is the "compact" version which is about $225 and can be purchase on amazon by anyone. Just added to the B&B Store (link below). Then there is the "integrated" which seems to be about $688!!!.  I don't think any of us are looking at that one intentionally. 

 

compact version currently $225

https://bandbyachtdesigns.com/garelick-manufacturing-19700-compact-eez-in-ii-transom-ladder/

 

integrated $688

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/garelick-eez-in-ii-integrated-concelaed-transom-ladder

 

And the obligatory note for affiliate links...

"If you buy an items using our Amazon link it means that B&B might receive an small commission from that item should you decide to purchase with zero additional cost to you. Yes really! Thank you for supporting us! "

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