Kennneee Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I am up to my ears with my current build but admit to thinking about the next boat which will likely be a tender for ROSIE. I will certainly take some of my kayaks and surfskis with me at times. With 12 of them hanging in my shed I need my head examined to be thinking of another boat. Years ago I built one of Danny Greens nesting dinghys called 2 bits for my sailboat. It was stolen the first time I used it so I got the opportunity to build another one! Anybody know the difference between the Cameleon and 2Bits design? The nesting dinghy worked great for years when I cruised and was easy to load on the foredeck with a whisker pole used as a hoist. These powerboats don't have that option so some kind of hoist seems like a good idea. I really like the one in the picture Tom posted. Is that made from Aluminum tubing? Anybody have an idea for a small mast that could also work as a steadying sail at anchor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I doubt that the crane in the photo is aluminum but you can ask Rick Lapp for better information. Most dinghys will be too heavy on a cantilever for aluminum and steel will be needed. It is certainly possible to have a wood mast attached to the pilothouse bulkhead and use it for both a dinghy hoist and a steady sail. Don't forget that the height of the mast can cause problems in some areas unless it is in a tabernacle It will also need some guy wires unless it's very strong and heavy. Flapp@evanhospital.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscott Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 A Google search for " Danny Greens nesting dinghys called 2 bits " revealed: Eventually, we found an address for Danny Greene (a naval architect and nesting dinghy pioneer) and requested plans for Two Bits or. For Pete's Sake. We learned these plans were no longer available. His designs had evolved over 20 years into the pram he called Chameleon. Chameleon is a nesting pram,10-feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennneee Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Tom- I have no experience with a boat like a Bluejacket or Outer Banks at anchor. I spent years living at anchor on a heavy steel sailboat and always thought the behavior of a boat at anchor was under discussed. A heavy boat with an all chain rode is hard to beat on the hook compared to a light weight boat on a nylon rode. Since I don't really know what to expect from my OB, any insights from the BJ community are appreciated. The reason I bring it up in this thread is I often think of a steadying sail / crane as a way to keep ROSIE well behaved on the hook. Am I over thinking this or does it make sense given your experience? Alex, thanks for checking out those nesting dingys. For what it is worth, 2 Bits was a really good design that rowed fairly well and could handle lots of weight. I also want to check out what Graham from B&B has cooked up. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejds Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Here is a Bluejacket with a wooden mast. More pictures at https://www.flickr.com/photos/chas231/ /' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Indeed it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennneee Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 So, how effective was the mast? I assume there was a small sail as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejds Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 The owner is Chas231 on this forum. I think he was planning on a sail but I haven't seen it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEvers Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Background info on Danny Greene's "Chameleon" design and it's predecessors are available at Duckworks...link below http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/designs/greene/cham/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 10:08 PM, Kennneee said: Tom- I have no experience with a boat like a Bluejacket or Outer Banks at anchor. I spent years living at anchor on a heavy steel sailboat and always thought the behavior of a boat at anchor was under discussed. A heavy boat with an all chain rode is hard to beat on the hook compared to a light weight boat on a nylon rode. Since I don't really know what to expect from my OB, any insights from the BJ community are appreciated. The reason I bring it up in this thread is I often think of a steadying sail / crane as a way to keep ROSIE well behaved on the hook. Am I over thinking this or does it make sense given your experience? Alex, thanks for checking out those nesting dingys. For what it is worth, 2 Bits was a really good design that rowed fairly well and could handle lots of weight. I also want to check out what Graham from B&B has cooked up. Ken Lots of boats like to sail around at anchor and I've had a fair share of them. Bluejackets like to swing around and maybe someone who has tried a steady sail can offer some results of that. The lack of a keel and lots of above windage plus light weight all conspire to promote sailing about. One sure way to prevent sailing about is to shift the anchor line tension off the bow. I set the anchor and bend on a rolling hitch about 15 feet or so out from the bow. This second line can be taken aft and pulled in enough to shift the bow off to one side. This biases the anchor pull off center so the boat cannot pass through the neutral point of the normal swing. How much offset is used will depend on the particular boat and other conditions. In light wind conditions, I often anchor by the stern which will prevent sailing about as well as make for a quieter sleep. Of course many use two separate anchors at an angle off the bow and is some cases where a shifting tidal current is expected, both bow and stern anchors may be necessary to keep your boat away from other in the anchorage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennneee Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Thanks again guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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