Steve W Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Doug, that looks awesome. I'm glad you are Niel Armstrong-ing this for me. A few questions. It looks like you took the cabin down in the last picture. What's up? I had a good look at a SkiffAmerica and the hatch is just covered with canvas. Any decisions? Is that baffeled area in the middle the water ballast area? Thanks, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 1. That's an older picture 2. We nwill have a walk-through cabin top much like Bolger designs or Skiff America The darker picture is the cabin ready to install seats/bunks. Beneath the bridge deck and the forward part of the cockpit sole is the baffled water ballast. The aft portion under the cockpit sole is an air tank (positive flotation along with the forward area under the tabernacle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Here is a couple of the latest 3d model views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom151 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Beneath the bridge deck and the forward part of the cockpit sole is the baffled water ballast. The aft portion under the cockpit sole is an air tank (positive flotation along with the forward area under the tabernacle. Doug, Just a thought (after looking at Graham's latest drawings)... during a knockdown those comings might act like a scoop when the boat recovers and dump a load of water into the cockpit. Might be worthwhile considering a couple of drain galleries from the cockpit (through the compartment behind the cockpit) and out through the transom. Just saying. Boat looks really good! Nice bit of work that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Cockpit drains are part of the plan, just as you suggest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makenmend Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I like this, Graham could that Tabernacle design be adapted to the 17 ? that would make life SO much easier for this ole F=+* . MM This Design could be in my future.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 MM, Yes we have done tabernacles in the CS17 and CS15's. I do not bother for the mizzen because it is a lot safer than going onto the foredeck. There have been times when I thought that I was in training for tossing the caber. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 More pictures. Cabin seats. More cockpit work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Must be trick photography. She looks like a 30 footer! What process did you use to mark and cutout the top openings for the lockers? I've never been that handy making such precise cuts with a jig saw. I have considered making a jig pattern and using a Rotozip to follow the jig edges. If the jig was made the same width as the glue surface of the inner flange, you could use the outside edge of the same jig to cutout your inner flange, leaving only the center scrap of the inner flange to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makenmend Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 " There have been times when I thought that I was in training for tossing the caber." Exactly Do you have drawings for the Tabernacle set up I could use ?? MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is a prototype for a kit Graham will be offering, so it is cut on his CNC machine (computer controlled router). If I was doing it from scratch, I would do a jig as you suggested since there are so many openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Peters Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Graham, will you have study plans and more detailed specs available for the CS20 MkIII and the CS17 MkIII? If so, when do you think they will be available? I am very interested. Thanks. Kim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Let to right: Hatch cover (1 assembled), Cabin, Cabin close-uo, Looking at with rear seat installed,(2nd row) looking forward from aft seat, mast support for ballast tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom151 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Let to right: Hatch cover (1 assembled), Cabin, Cabin close-uo, Looking at with rear seat installed,(2nd row) looking forward from aft seat, mast support for ballast tank.Looking REAL good there Doug - i'm sure there are lots of folks like me that would love to be helping you ;)What's up with what looks like a limber hole leading under the bridgedeck in the fifth picture? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 The water ballast tank extends about 18" Nader the bridge deck. Also, on the top of the centerboard trunk, there is an opening for the line to raise the centerboard. More details and commentary now up at http://capt-doug.blogspot.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveKos Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 As a relatively new boat builder (on my 2nd, the Spindrift 11), I am really getting hooked on the whole wooden sailboat building universe. My plan is to build this Spindrift 11, learn to sail in her for a couple of years, then sell it at a profit and raise enough to build a smallish cruiser. Graham, I'm no expert in design, but I do spend alot of time browsing the net looking at designs and I'm really impressed with your thoughtful and user-conscious mindset when it comes to design. Many designers seem to focus on performance as their main criteria, but if I am any indication of the market, many people just want a boat that will be relatively straightforward to build, will sail well but above all is comfortable, safe and manageable in a wide variety of conditions. I was salivating over the prospect of my next build being a Belhaven 19, but these newer CS models are opening up a whole range of options. Keep them coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Steve, the really great thing about Graham's designs is that you not only get the things that you mentioned, but you STILL get the performance, too. Actually, because of the thoughtful and user-conscious mindset, you get outstanding performance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyhavenpotterer Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Could I ask about headroom in the cabin. I am thinking there is enough height to sit-up on the bunk, but confirmation would be good. Terrific design and should appeal to a lot of builders looking for it's very clever combination of features. Thanks for posting about her, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 It is actually very comfortable to sit on the bunks, leaning back against the hull. The decision to go with an open coach roof instead of traditional hatches was made to make standing possible standing in fair weather and good access to the mast and anchor. Bolger used this type of cabin on a lot of his designs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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