CS17 mk3 and CS20 mk3

[Designer]

Rather than hijack the mk2 thread I will start a new one.

 

Chick asked that I post some pictures of the mk3.

 

I started on a cabin version of the CS17 at least 5 years ago.  I got involved in the big cat project and shelved it for a while. One night after work I was showing Alan some drawings that never made it. When we came upon the CS17 with the raised deck, Alan became excited by it's potential.

 

I cyber dusted off the oiginal drawings and imported them into Rhino and modified them a bit to fit my current thinking. Then I thought, this might work on the CS20. The CS20 mk3 was born. Here are a couple of views of her.

 

 

[tom151]

Very nice, works for me. Would suit my use as a cruiser better than a trunk cabin.

 

Just to be sure, is this version also (available with) a water ballast configuration?

 

The more beam-on dwg seem to suggest a daggerboard (or at least the possibility) - am I reading you correctly?

 

Are you be able to "estimate" the price for a kit?

 * All ply parts $__ ?

 * Sails $__ ?

 

Thx,

[Designer]

Tom,

 

She has a centerboard like the other CS's, but further offset to make the water ballast work better. Yes she has water ballast.

 

I am still creating the cut files for CNC cutting and still do not know exactly how many sheets of ply she will take. It will be a month before I can give a cost.

 

If you look closely, you will see the oars stowed inside the coamings.

 

The light blue box under the bridge deck is where the porta-potti is stowed.

[Tom Lathrop]

I like raised deck designs, which I'm sure is no surprise to Graham.  I think a slot cabin like Jim Michalak and Kilburn Adams use would make getting in and out as well as moving forward easy on such a design. 

[Steve W]

I went to the MASCF looking for a design to build next and saw a few cabin boats, but nothing that struck a chord. I really liked the CS20 II, but this is outstanding in looks. Could it have tabernacled masts and what would it weigh?  Would the cockpit be self draining? Do you have a view from overhead? Would I be able to sit below upright?

 

That looks awesome, like a Welsford sweet pea meets a Bolger Chebbaco meets a CS20. I am very interested.

 

Steve

[Doug Cameron]

The hatch opening forward makes anchoring and dealing with issues with the main mast easier and safer than walking down side deck on the trunk cabin.  Steve, the main mast is on a tabernacle and the cockpit is self-draining.

[Steve W]

Thank you Doug. I saw a Skiff America last summer and I thought the potential of this type of cabin was very good. This boat looks like it would make a pretty good all purpose boat. I have a Sea Pearl that I really like, but sleeping on it is problematic, and I have the itch to build again. My Spindrift 11N won first place in its build class (B Contemporary) at the MASCF this past weekend. Considering it was my first build and the boats I was up against I am pretty honored. I am ready for build two!

 

Take Care,

Steve

[Dale Niemann]

Steve,

Have we seen photos of your build.  If so where are they?

 

tks,

dale

[wkisting]

Very nice! I have often said that if I was going to make any modifications to our CS20 (mk 1), I would raise the foredeck by about 8" and create a crawl-in cuddy space up front. This version looks much more spacious with a higher deck than I had in mind, but is right in line with the spirit of what I was envisioning. Almost tempts me to build one, but I'm so attached to the boat we have. The CS20, in any guise, is such a fine boat!

[Dnjost]

I have always had a fondness for the raised deck cabin style such as the old Edey and Duff Stonehorse.  The lines forward on the 20 remind me very much of this design.  Nice job. 

 

The only issue with the Stonehorse was the need to moor it due to the large keel.  

[Travis Votaw]

Anybody want to build the 17' MK II and trade it for a Princess 22? I'm seriously thinking of downsizing - hate to admit it, but I'm getting old (77) , and looking for a lighter, shallower draft, easier setup. I don't have a place to build one either.

Travis Votaw

sailing PILGRIM, P22

[Travis Votaw]

Oops. Meant to reference CS 17 MK 3 above. Don't even know if Graham has drawn the design yet.

[Garry]

Wow! I like the looks of this design. I'd be tempted.

 

Travis - It must be difficult to consider giving up Pilgrim. Great boat and many fond memories, I'm sure.

 

You might be interested in this little article I wrote years ago. http://www.pbase.com/onceagain/image/33289342

[Dale Niemann]

Thank you Garry for sharing your article.  I enjoyed it very much.  I am more of a trailer sailor guy but can appreciate you thoughts.

dale

[Steve W]

I just saw a picture on the Facebook Watertribe site of the CS20 MKIII under construction. I'm so excited to see one is being built. I have the GIFs saved and dream of that boat everyday. It will be interesting to see what she weighs and see it in person. If it is truly done in time I may fly to the EC14 start to see it in person.

 

I'd love to see some more construction pictures than just that one.

 

Take Care,

Steve

[Doug Cameron]

Steve, we've been working or going to Graham's boatbuilding class every working hour. This is the prototype and we are working out the details. I'll put up pictures on my blog and post the link here when I get home. Graham plans on having a kit. She is going together nicely and already feels like a 25 foot boat (big cockpit and reasonable cabin).

[Scott Dunsworth]

I will probably never build it, but I have to have a set of these plans in the 20!!

[Designer]

Here are some pics of the mk3 being assembled.

[Brent]

Looks like fun.

A fast boat with a good place to sleep is a fabulous combination.

[Scott Dunsworth]

I agree with Brent. This looks like a fast light boat that would plane fairly easy. A place to keep yourself and stores dry. Hope it has enough headroom to find at least a few places to set upright.

I'm not a purist in any sense of the word so the oars would never be installed on one for me. I would rather smell a smoky outboard or use an electric than to have oars aboard. Oars are a disgusting thing, as much so as a post hole digger. Just very nasty creatures by design!

 

Scott