Roger Peterson Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I am getting close to finishing my CS-17 and have a question regarding compass placement. I was thinking of mounting a compass in the center thwart. Will the aluminium mast effect the compass heading? Where does an experienced sailor mount his compass? I plan on entering the Texas 200 this year and will need a compass and charts as well. Any ideas on the most bang for the buck on a new compass? Also, Where can I find charts for the Texas 200? Thanks for any info... Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom151 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 No compass problems with Alum, Stainless, Copper, Bronze (assuming you have no ferrous metals as fasteners or c/b pivot pin, etc.) I'd worry that the center thwart might be too close to you for easy reading when sitting near it. I find that farther away from me works better since it really becomes a general reference tool more than a navigational tool. It's likely that you'll end up with some kind of a minimalist GPS as well for real navigating/course keeping - the compass will be most useful for sensing wind shifts or for occasional reference as opposed to trying watch it to sail a close compass course (at least for me Looking at CS17 photos - I'd consider using a bulkhead mount style compass and hanging it on a bracket under the forward thwart on the keel side far enough away from the centerboard case so you can still read it from the off side seating. That location will also work somewhat whenever you're sitting amidships. Maybe even make it so it can be mounter under either thwart ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have a Ritchie Explorer up forward next to the centerboard. Works really well - very little parallax from my usual steering position. PeterP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 That looks like an ideal spot Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Peterson Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thanks guys for the suggestions. I think I'll go with the Ritchie Voyager. Thanks Peter for the picture of your set-up. I had not thought about placing the compass where you did but I must say I really like the results. With a little larger compass for me ( I have less than perfect eyesight), I think your location will be perfect. Any suggestions for a low cost GPS? I really don't know anything about them. I can budget about $150 for one. Thanks, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Thompson Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 No expert. My first was a small Magellan which showed longitude and latitude, speed, direction of travel etc. This Christmas my family gave me a Garmin model GPSmap76CSx. It is a hand held model around $300 Canadian. This one you can load different types of maps onto. It hooks up to the computer for transferring routes etc. My son who uses these a lot tells me that there is a lot of free stuff on the net to use with Garmins. Our field staff at the Forest Service use Garmin models and say they are pleased with them. Below minus 15 Cel. they start to chug but that shouldn't be a problem for sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apteryx Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I just saw a Garmin Oregon a the local Gander Mountain. Neat gizmo. Over $400, so I left it on the shelf. Inside the building it had a pretty high signal strength indication. It may have been in simulation mode, thinking back, but it was pretty neat - no buttons other than the power button, everything was done through the touch screen. For $400 I could get a jointer, though, and it's not likely I'll get lost as long as my Core Sound is in pieces in my garage. But when she floats, I might look for a better GPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francesco Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Peter: Can you show a picture of how you store the oars. Where did you get the holders. Fran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 The oars are held by homemade C brackets made out of some scraps of plywood. They are stuck on with silicone and through bolted. The bungee cord knot came undone one too many times on me so I got some stainless wire and crimped it instead. PeterP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francesco Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Peter: Perfect. My next project. Do you have two or three per oar? Fran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Two per oar. Obviously, I made mine after I shaped the looms to get the right fit. Good luck. PeterP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Jones Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 on the charts- go to the Texas 200 site- there's a long thread there on charts for the trip. We used and will use again, a Garmin 72. Non mapping, but that's all you'll need for this trip- cost is around 100 bucks nowadays. There' is no real hard navigation on any of the courses for the 200, other than the leg across San Antonio Bay because there you cannot visually spot the passes - every where else you can really navigate visually. Another addition you should seriously consider though is a hand held VHF. The VHF's got serious use on the 200. I wouldn't sail it without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Peterson Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Thanks, Charlie. I'll look into the Gamin 72 today. My brother has a hand held VHF radio that he will bring but I need to get my own as well. Chuck Leinweber over at Duckworks suggested I look for "TOP SPOT" fishing maps for an economical source for the Texas 200 charts. Next Question...Will an outboard motor be required? I would rather use an "Ash Breeze" but I'm gettin older now and don't know if I could row 20+ miles at one time. I have a 1947 Gale 3HP outboard I could use but although it's cool, It smokes and stinks and I would rather not use it if I can get by without it. Thanks again for your responses, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Jones Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 We don't carry an outboard on Traveler. I have a 2.2 Merc we use on our dinghy but see little reason for it on Traveler. Many many boats were without OB power also. The TOPSPOT maps are really good, plus they are waterproof. The one for San Antonio Bay and the one that covers Matagorda Bay would cover the two hardest areas. We just printed out the NOAA charts for the other areas, although we did buy waterway charts. Simply didn't really need them. Start in Port Mansfield and sail north. Once into the land cut, you cannot go wrong- no place else to go ;D Besides- you'll almost always have other boats in sight, unless you are either way faster than Southern Skimmer or Dan on his Hobie 18, or way slower than the Puddle Duckers. And by the way- I turned 68 last Saturday, so don't worry too much about "getting older" There will be sailors doing the 200 that are older than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigait1 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Happy Birthday Charlie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Peterson Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 "And by the way- I turned 68 last Saturday, so don't worry too much about "getting older" There will be sailors doing the 200 that are older than I am." Well Then... Happy Birthday, Charlie! I hope to meet you and the rest of the Texas gang this year at the Texas 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KSONeill Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 We don't carry an outboard on Traveler. I have a 2.2 Merc we use on our dinghy but see little reason for it on Traveler. Many many boats were without OB power also. The TOPSPOT maps are really good, plus they are waterproof. The one for San Antonio Bay and the one that covers Matagorda Bay would cover the two hardest areas. We just printed out the NOAA charts for the other areas, although we did buy waterway charts. Simply didn't really need them. Start in Port Mansfield and sail north. Once into the land cut, you cannot go wrong- no place else to go ;D Besides- you'll almost always have other boats in sight, unless you are either way faster than Southern Skimmer or Dan on his Hobie 18, or way slower than the Puddle Duckers. And by the way- I turned 68 last Saturday, so don't worry too much about "getting older" There will be sailors doing the 200 that are older than I am. Happy Birthday! Regarding GPS, if you're looking at a Garmin there's a really nice page here: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145 check the ones you want and compare, you get a rundown of all the features. On the other hand, Chuck swears by his Lowrance H2OC. I'm not sure Dan is bringing the 18 this time, he and Brian are working on two of Gary Dierking's Tamanu hulls. Maybe a cat? Or two outriggers? Only time will tell. I dropped in looking for a good idea on where to put a compass on my contraption. Maybe I'll just keep carrying my little orienteering compass, but I'd like a bigger mounted one somewhere. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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