lbrewer Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I think you have us showing up an hour early. If I am correct, we start 12 am EST or midnight tonight. I think you and I both are correct on the time. 12EST, 11CST etc... is what I think as well. There is a countdown timer online now in the "play" section of the site in case my math is wrong. It shows 13.5 hrs from now. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yes, but is that game site time (GMT+1) or actual time in the time zone your IP address is located? GMT is 5 hours ahead of EST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbrewer Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Since it is "countdown" timer.....that is, showing hours, minutes, seconds remaining until start, I assume the cannon goes off when it counts down to "0". That would be 4 hrs from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 See you at the starting gun - 2359 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Umm, the standings show me 4 miles closer to the finish than the first place boat. How can that be? Factor in that I am to weather as well, it is a windward leg, and we will all have to tack eventually, and I don't get it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbrewer Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I was wondering about that too. I had been noticing the same kind of things as you are describing. Apparently on your play screen, it doesn't update the position of the other boats you see as quickly as it updates your own. When I read your post above, I checked your position and my screen showed you at a DTF of 2198 nm. When it auto-updated about 2 minutes later. It showed you at a DTF of 2172 nm. I was 12 miles ahead of you on that first look. After the update I was 4 miles behind. Man, you must've been flying since it updates every 10 minutes! I don't think i am going to use real-time comparisons with competitors to make short term decisions. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I don't make any short time decisions anyway. Do a lot of that and you will always be following people, can't beat 'em from that strategy. I think the standings stay accurate in regards to order, but all other data is often lagging behind. Standings don't account the fact that we will all need to move to weather soon, tacking at some time in the future, then a lot will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbrewer Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I just read a message on the "forum" section. Apparently they are aware of the issue and are looking into it. Also, the game tutorial we were looking for in Leg three can be found here: http://static.volvooceanracegame.org/download/VORGame_Basic_Tutorial.pdf Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 30,000 entries are also within 5 miles of the first place boat, get over it and sail hard . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docpal Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 All of a sudden I can no longer "see"any other boats except for the Messing about group. While that makes for a much cleaner field of view I'm wondering if it works that way every leg ( I jumped in mid way on leg 3...). Even though they claim that current has no bearing on this virtual race it seems that the starboard tack is like sailing through sludge...! Ooops-Just logged off/logged on again and they're ALL back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbrewer Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 It might be the South China Sea's version of the Bermuda Triangle phenomena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 There are definitely some graphics and data issues. The tracks it shows for some boats defies the physics of sailing. I see some that represent sailing 25 degrees off the wind. And these are boats near me that I have been following. Even if the data for "you" is updated every 10 minutes other boats may or may not be. I see some boats as ahead of me when the distance to finish is great than mine. You may not even be where you think you are. I guess we will find out at the finish if we actually knew where we were going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adla Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 it doesn't pay to sleep! twice I have found my boat drifting because I foolishly believed that it was ok to sleep during this race! a. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Potts Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I noticed you weren't moving for a while. That happened to me too early this morning but I was expecting it. Maybe we should give each other our passwords so we can babysit from different time zones Or maybe that would invite sabotage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 That's happened to me twice Adla. Once I knew I was going to be away from a computer for at least 24 hours, so I set a course that would keep me from running into a land mass. I got back to just to claw off a lee shore. Then I got away from the internet again, for a half a day, with the result being I sailed in the wrong direction for several hours. I've pretty much blown this leg, but the next leg is a down hill sled ride, which should be a fair bit easier to leave unattended. I'm thinking about maybe having my hacker buddy break into the game and give me 50% stronger winds from favorable directions only on my boat . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbrewer Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Happened to me too. The bad thing was that I saw what would happen and made a course change to prevent it. I guess I forgot to press the validate heading button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adla Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I thought I had taken the future wind into consideration and everything. But, alas - my boat just went kaput! I've been watching today - since I am back and able to check in more often - and I think there is some slippery wind changes and lee movement or the forecasts are wrong. Or maybe I just think I am in my weekender - where lee movement is common...sometimes I can gain more ground sideways than forward! hA! ;D a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I haven't come to a halt yet, but close. In case any haven't noticed, the cut off angle to the wind is 29 degrees, after which many have noticed you stop completely. 5 am and 5 pm EST are the worst times, but you can even stall from one wind cell to another. I have come back to the game to find myself pinching a lot more than I would choose. Having the auto-pilot on the wind option would be nice, but according to the forums it doesn't work very well. I'm still trying to figure out the optimum angle for going to whether. For real boats it varies with wind speed. I wonder how sophisticated this game is in that regard. I keep trying to do several hour comparisons against Debutante, but he keeps splitting tacks with me :-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Potts Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dave, In the news section they published something about changes to the "polars". It looks like between the last leg and this leg they changed the boat performance so you can't go 1 knot when you're just a few degrees off the wind anymore (in irons=0 knots instead of being blown directly downwind - Negative boat speed). Anyway, they show charts that correlate boat speed to the angle of wind AND the wind speed so you might want to look there. If you don't find it in the news section let me know and I'll try to figure out where I saw the charts. Are the 5am and 5pm times you're talking about the wind updates? I haven't quite figured out when they change the wind map here on the East Coast (you're on East coast time arent you?) I thought it was 6am and 6pm GMT+1:00 but that's a different time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Wind is updated at 11 am and pm CET (Cental European Time) aka GMT+1. That correlates to 5 am and pm EST. If you look at the top of the chart it tells you when it was last updated. Keep in mind they use 23 h for 11 pm. Gonna go look for those charts. Problem is, my trig is a bit rusty, so making good use of them will be tough ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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