Hirilonde Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Sure looks like a weatherly hull. I hope your race has some serious beating legs, that'll teach the catamaran a lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Do you anticipate the headsail will help her go to weather better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted January 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 There is no headsail, she is a cat ketch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The question about headsails might be from this quote from Tom: an asymetrical spinaker on a retractable bowsprit So, if I understand right, the retractable bowsprit is only for use with the assymetrical spinaker which would be for running or reaching. You don't anticipate using a headsail when beating. Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted January 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 That is correct Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Sorry, I remembered the bowsprit but I guess I forgot the purpose of it. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstgean Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Between that knife like bow and the planing stern, that thing should fly! As for the cats not going upwind...you ought to check out the Angles the A cats and F16/or 18 are able to achieve. 8) So, when will plans be available? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstgean Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Graham, What is the step down on the interior in the bow are for? A resting area? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Cameron Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Bud wrote:[Doug How is the shoulder coming along? Hope it's doing well,it will prob take some time to get some strength back in it. Bud.] The arm is out of the sling. After 6 weeks immobilized, the right arm is noticably smaller than the left. But I am pushing the PT hard 3 times a week, and they give me exercises to do 3 times a day. There is an ache deep in the bones, made worse by the passage of a cold front. I am returning to the easier parts of the construction -- interior fillets are coming soon, after the forward bulkaehd is scribed and wired in and the hull is straightened. I can't wait to get to Florida in 6 weeks and see everybody, even though I will be a race volunteer. I have great hopes for Graham's entry. The boat looks great (and fast!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Graham' date=' What is the step down on the interior in the bow are for? A resting area? Dan[/quote'] The open area at the bow will house the mainmast tabernacle against the bulkhead and space for the anchor also. The anchor will be stored aft when when racing. There will be a partial deck over this area allowing room enough for the mast to swing through. The fiberglass tube in which the bowsprit is housed will also be fitted to the port side in there. There will be overboard drains of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 My CS goes upwind fine, I have no complaints. I have just wondered if a bit of a headsail might improve upwind performance a smidge. But this thread isn't about headsails that don't exist. It is about that really cool boat Graham is building. Sorry to have caused all the fuss. I'll try to pay better attention from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Graham' date=' What is the step down on the interior in the bow are for? A resting area? Dan[/quote'] Sorry if I misinterpreted your question. You probably meant the area that will become the cuddy cabin with berths. It will be more enclosed and comfortable in bad weather than the dodger on Green Heron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxsailr Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 WOW a assymetrical spinaker... now you've really have my interest! Nothing like a sleigh ride down wind. Will the Main need shrouds to take the loads of the kite? Looking forward to seeing you start if I can arrange that weekend off. Niels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstgean Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I'm pretty sure there will have to be a running backstay for that duty as a jib, genoa, or spin all impart tons of stress to the masthead. That said, the EC22 really interests me even though I'm a multi guy. If plans come out...8) Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstgean Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Is the offset centerboard to allow full length boards/stringers to back up the ply :?: Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Jones Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 All of Graham's designs, at least the larger ones, have the offset CB. The Core Sound 17, 20 and the Princess line included. Saves piercing the keelson and makes absolutley no difference to the boats handling. One additional benefit- should you beach somewhere with small stones or shells, they don't get a chance to lock up the CNB slot, since it sits along side the keel and isn't touching the beach. That's something that was done long ago, on boats called Noman's Island boats, for exactly that reason. Dstgean- I'm sure he'll do the same thing he does with the mizzen staysail- use the halyard itself led aft and to weather as a running backstay. Works quite well on the Princess 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Dudley Dix already sells plans for Minis made out of plywood http://dixdesign.com/oneill.htm They are quite a build, but will probably never compete with the carbon/foam sandwich construction of the protos like Acadia http://www.teamacadia.org/ which had its hull built and Maine and the rest of work done in Stonington under the guidance of the designer Rod Johnstone of J Boats fame. Minis are quite an exciting class, but I'll stop here is this thread is about Grahams new design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxsailr Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Ahh seeing the twin rudders brings me back to my sweet sailing Beneteau F210 I had. Back to the EC22 is there time line for the plans? Niels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Jones Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Talking to Graham yesterday. I doubt there is ANY chance of having plans out until AFTER the Challenge. Remember- he's got 6 weeks left til "drop the hitch on the ball"time. Busy busy right now and the weather isn't really helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lathrop Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Charlie has it right on the offset CB. All of Graham's boats that have a protective keel have the CB offset. Allows the keel to be continuous which keeps it from hanging up on rollers in launching/retreiving, protects the CB and trunk when dragging on the beach and is stronger. NO disadvantages that we have found. The halyard will be used as a running backstay. Turned the boat rightside up today for the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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